Talk:Mazzy Star

Article No Longer A Stub

ive provided a lot of material —The preceding unsigned comment was added by S.U.H.E.L. (talk • contribs) 06:02, 6 April 2007 (UTC).

• It wasn't written in anything resembling an encyclopedic tone, so unfortunately I had to revert it. Please read the material located at WP:TONE and try again. :) JuJube 08:12, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

lol

what is d relevence of 2000 tourdates. dis is 2007. wakeup....--S.U.H.E.L. 09:20, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

t r eee d ye. fo —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.110.223 (talk) 21:48, 4 January 2008 (UTC) EMFDYSI. JuJube (talk) 23:13, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Removed copyvio material

Alerted by the tone, I Googled some of the article. Turns out most of it is copied directly from another website. I removed the material (marking the source in my edit summaries). This is a great band and their article really should have information on them. However, the information shouldn't be cut/pasted from another website. janejellyroll 04:40, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Uh..

" The album, seemingly destined for the cut-out bin, began an unexpected ascent into the US Top 40, and Mazzy Star were suddenly stars in sales as well as name. Make that anti-stars: Roback and Sandoval are notoriously difficult interview subjects, responding to most questions with monosyllables or silence. Their subsequent release, Among My Swan (1996) confirmed them as out-and-out champions of the mournful – their brooding, enigmatic public personas seem less a cultivated pose than a complement to the shadowy, brooding mystery of their simultaneously frustrating and entrancing soundscapes.

Sandoval made her solo debut in 2001 with Bavarian Fruit Bread ostensibly backed by the Warm Inventions, though really this is a pairing with Colm O'Ciosoig (once of My Bloody Valentine) with folk legend Bert Jansch popping up with his six string on the beautiful "Butterfly Mornings" and "Charlotte". Largely written by Sandoval, this plunges further into a languidly erotic, narcoleptic haze than even Mazzy Star could manage, the latter's spacey guitar rejected as possibly too energetic for the collection's country/folk saturated sleepiness. Adorable."

The above isn't encyclopaedic at all, it reads more like it was culled from a fansite or distilled from public releases. I mean come on, "adorable"? "make that anti-stars"? "languidly erotic, narcoleptic haze"? This article needs some serious work. 121.45.58.211 08:13, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Seconded. Tommy.rousse 14:26, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Their subsequent release, Among My Swan (1996) confirmed them as out-and-out champions of the mournful

It's just an endless stream of POV. It should probably be stripped down to bare minimum and rebuilt. MKV 23:37, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Definitely. Never noticed this before, embarassingly enough. ^_^ JuJube 00:20, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

There Should

be some sort of mention of the unusual vocal style evident in their work--78.86.18.55 (talk) 13:31, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure how you would state that objectively. Besides, it's hardly unique to Mazzy Star. JuJube (talk) 14:49, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Name

What's the origin of it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.25.168.110 (talk) 04:42, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

• I read some time ago that Hope and David came up with the name together. David made up "Mazzy" and Hope "Star". I'm not sure what 'Mazzy' is supposed to mean. But no source to back this up at the moment. JuJube (talk) 05:29, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Mazzy Star did not do Sweet Jane

And they also did not do Wild Horses. 10 seconds and 2 ears could determine the proper answer to both of these easily. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.250.189.4 (talk) 13:29, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

• I thought I removed these. They keep cropping up thanks to filesharing morons who don't get their facts straight. JuJube (talk) 15:26, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Genre

Mazzy Star has been never considered a dreampop/shoegazing band. Their sound is based on psychedelic folk and country music. Read some music magazines from the '90s. This dreampop nonsense started in the 2000s (retroactively!!! and many years after the end of the band). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.134.5.51 (talk) 20:44, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Can you please provide a source for this? From this comment above, you seem to be basing this on your personal opinion, while the genres that were included previously were fully sourced. The likes of "Bells Rings", "She's My Baby", "Disappear" and "Roseblood" owe more than a nod to the shoegaze movement, while the likes of "Fade Into You" and "Be My Angel" are clearly dreampop-influenced. Your point about something being classed as part of a genre "retroactively" isn't particularly applicable, because that has always happened. "Be My Angel" is clearly a dreampop song, released before the "dreampop" term was coined - and well before it was used to described any of The Sundays material. So I'd consider the song an influence to the dreampop genre itself. Their musical style is ambivalent at best - mixing several completely random genres all on one album - but I've never once heard their music described as "country". Please provide sources next time. Homeostasis07 (talk) 02:27, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Personal opninion? You removed the source! A reliable book source! Read the music magazines of the 90s. SPIN magazine, CMJ New Music Monthly and many others. Nobody called them a Dreampop band. Dreampop was connected to the British Shoegazing movement, bands like Curve, Chapterhouse, Slowdive, A.R. Kane, Lush... These are typical Dreampop bands. Mazzy Star have always been described as a Psychedelic/Folk/Country band. They had absolutely nothing to do with the British Shoegazing movement. Their biggest hit "Fade Into You" is a folk-oriented COUNTRY song!

"The likes of "Bells Rings", "She's My Baby", "Disappear" and "Roseblood" owe more than a nod to the shoegaze movement"

Psychedelic Rock! Both, Shoegazing and Mazzy Star's music, are simply based on Psychedelic Rock. That's why you think it's somehow related. But it isn't. It's a part of Neo-psychedelia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.134.30.114 (talk) 14:49, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Once again, most of this seems to be based on your personal, unsourced opinion. The "Dreampop" genre - as far as most people are concerned - is heavily centred around the likes of The Sundays, Cocteau Twins, etc., which much of Mazzy Star's early 90's material shares a sonic connection with. The dreampop and shoegaze genres are fully sourced either in the main Mazzy Star article, or on their album articles. I'll leave your book source - which I haven't read - as a source for the dubious "country rock" genre (I've never heard their material described as that genre anywhere else), but I'm re-adding the sourced dreampop and shoegaze genres. Homeostasis07 (talk) 01:08, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

The dreampop genre is heavily centered around Shoegazing, nothing else. Show me ONE single source from the '90s that calls Mazzy Star a dreampop band. You will find nothing. The dreampop article in Wikipedia is a load of crap, because it describes a synonym of shoegazing. That's all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.244.74.109 (talk) 15:27, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

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Age, Birth Date? No, Personal Life section..?

Age, Birth Date? No, Personal Life section..? probably been asked before but.. Confused! -From Peter {a.k.a. Vid2vid (talk | contribs)} 07:53, 9 May 2021 (UTC).

This right here is why people are turned off from editing Wikipedia; this article is the band, it should end in, "(musical band)." The article about the singer is called Hope Sandoval here. -From Peter {a.k.a. Vid2vid (talk | contribs)} 07:57, 9 May 2021 (UTC).

Hi Vid2vid/Peter. Please see WP:Disambiguation. This article would only be titled "Mazzy Star (musical band)" if another notable project titled "Mazzy Star" came into existence. As you say, Hope Sandoval is the lead singer of the band Mazzy Star, so all the requested information should be contained at her article. Hope this helps. Homeostasis07 (talk/contributions) 22:53, 9 May 2021 (UTC)