Talk:McDonald's Cycle Center

GA Review

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1. Is it reasonably well written?

   A. Prose quality:

   Just one issue with prose that will not preclude the article from passing:

• Details "Awnings produce shade for the interior." This seems to be stated a little matter-of-factly. If something can be explained about how the awnings work or why they were needed this would help.

1. B. MoS compliance:

2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?

   A. References to sources:

   B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:

   C. No original research:

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. Major aspects:

   B. Focused:

4. Is it neutral?

   Fair representation without bias:

5. Is it stable?

   No edit wars, etc:

6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?

   A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:

   B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

   Very well done and informative article. No vital improvements necessary at the time of review. --ErgoSum88 (talk) 22:38, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Priorities

So there is an extensive article on a cycle centre but no Cycling in the United States article. Balanced content in WP overall is probably more important than acheiving FA status for this article. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 03:09, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't work on Cycling articles. I am the director of WP:CHICAGO and work on Chicago articles. If you would like to bring Cycling in the United States to FA-status you are free to do so. I will continue to work on Chicago articles and as they benefit other projects, I hope those projects will assist.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 03:24, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia cannot make editors work on certain topics. Editors will work on topics in which they take an interest. Also, it is harder to write articles about broader subjects. For example, we have 124 Featured articles and 32 Featured lists on video-game-related topics, but the article Video game is in a shoddy state. Dabomb87 (talk) 00:44, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Copy edit

Should these be in quotation marks as they sound like direct quotes: Pro-cycling and environmentalist journalists in publications well beyond the Chicago metropolitan area have described the Cycle Center as "exemplary", "impressive", "unique" and "ground-breaking".[2][12] Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 04:43, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

I think I was trying to paraphrase the passages. If it is over the top, feel free to rework it.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 04:50, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Image request

Checking refs for the copyedit I saw a photo of the Cycle Center in the dusk, lit from within. It was a really nice shot and I imagine it would not be too hard to duplicate (need a tripod). Would something like that work for the Critical review section (where it is described as gem-like)? I would need to hunt to find the picture, but can if it is needed. Just an idea, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 20:55, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

PS It is the bottom most picture here Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 20:58, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Torsodog (talk · contribs) is a much better photographer than I and he lives a block or two away from the location in question. I'll make sure he knows about your wishes.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 21:09, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks - just to be clear it is no hurry - just saw the area without an image and thought it would be a good shot. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 21:11, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

This is something I can definitely do. I'll try to replicate the photo ASAP (and since this is actually a photo at dusk, I can take it after work instead of having to wait until the weekend like usual!). I'll probably wait until this rain finally clears up though, so give me a couple of days. --Torsodog^Talk 21:51, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks so much - as I said it is no hurry, but I look forward to seeing the image. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 02:40, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

I couldn't replicate the photo exactly (I'm not really sure how that got that angle, actually), but I did what I could. Is this what you had in mind? Also, I moved around the images a bit and removed the aerial view that really didn't add anything to the article. Thoughts? --Torsodog^Talk 04:27, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

I think it looks great - both the new image and the layout. I just thought it would be nice to have an image of the center lit from within at night. I like it better than the one in the website I originally saw - more focus on the center itself. Thanks, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 05:10, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Clarification requested

"it has served as a demonstration location for efforts to lobby for further bicycle accommodations ..."

The link goes to demonstration (protest), but probably what's really meant here is 'model' or 'example' or 'demonstration project', isn't it? Colonies Chris (talk) 09:09, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Dead link

I have marked the "If McDonald's is serious, menu needs a makeover" reference as being a dead link. I checked the Wayback Machine, and it doesn't look like there are any archives of the relevant page. The link will need to be removed, but then the citation information for the reference will be insufficient, so the page number in the physical copy of the article in the newspaper will need to be retrieved and added. Do you have access to the physical newspaper, Tony? Neelix (talk) 02:56, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

•  Done - Thanks, ZeroInfluence! Neelix (talk) 16:49, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

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FA concerns

After reviewing this article, I am concerned that this article no longer fulfils the featured article criteria. Some of my concerns are outlined below:

• There are lots of "when?" templates from September 2019 that need to be resolved.
• There are four citations in this sentence, which should be reduced: "The city and its Cycle Center are considered exemplary by other cities in pursuit of covered, secure bicycle parking near public transportation."
• The article has lots of WP:PROMO material. Some examples are:
  • "Repair services are deeply discounted."
  • "Showers and lockers were initially available to non-members for a $1 fee,[33] but by 2009, the fee had been raised to $3."
  • "The bike tour travels to Barack Obama's home in the Kenwood community area, the place of his and Michelle Obama's marriage and other culturally related destinations."
  • "By supporting cycling as an alternate form of transportation, it will help reduce traffic congestion, improve air quality and promote the health benefits of cycling."

Is anyone interested in bringing this article back to FA standards? Z1720 (talk) 18:44, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

@Z1720, I just came across this now, even though this is long after the FA demotion. It seems @SnowFire has removed most, if not all, of the {{when}} tags last September. For promotional material, I agree most of these are promotional, but the second sub-point just seems to illustrate a drastic increase in fees, rather than being promotional. A greater concern is the sentence The city and its Cycle Center are considered exemplary by other cities..., which does seem to be a little weasely to me (which other cities have cited Chicago and its Cycle Center as exemplary?). Another issue of note is that part of the article seems to be coatracking of tangentially related topics, such as cycling in Chicago and cycle centers in other cities.

This seems like it's B-class, and perhaps it can become a GA with some tweaks, but I agree with the decision to demote this as an FA. – Epicgenius (talk) 20:31, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

Closed, becoming police facility

This facility has been closed since September, and it is being converted into a police facility.

https://chi.streetsblog.org/2023/03/24/confirmed-millennium-park-bike-station-will-now-only-serve-cops-instead-of-commuters/ YAOMTC (talk) 03:59, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

I finally just edited it myself. Still needs work though. YAOMTC (talk) 04:18, 18 March 2024 (UTC)