Talk:Meet the Woo Tour

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Meet the Woo Tour/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 13:16, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

I will happily review this later today even as I'm waiting for you to finishing reviewing "Clique", as this article is quite small. --K. Peake 13:16, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

• Infobox looks good!
• "of his two mixtapes" → "of his two mixtapes,"
• "and consisted of concerts" → "and had been set to consist of concerts"

Background and development

• 1 offers a mention of how Pop Smoke's legal troubles were facing him at the time of the tour announcement; this is notable
• 2 references Pop Smoke sharing the promotional flyer; give a mention of this in the article
• "concert tour, Meet the Woo Tour," → "concert tour the Meet the Woo Tour"
• "his two mixtapes," → "his two mixtapes"

•  Not done remove the wikilink and comma --K. Peake 19:46, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• "while tour dates for the UK" → "while dates for the United Kingdom"
• "revealed on February 13." → "revealed on February 13, 2020."
• Since this section covers both background and development, are you sure you can't find any info about the synopsis, stage props, or other things that were planned for the concerts?

Kyle Peake, there were only sources that told the dates and locations of the tour. As you know, Pop Smoke was murdered before he had any plan for any of this stuff...The Ultimate Boss (talk) 19:22, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

The Ultimate Boss That is fine then since this information is not a necessity for cancelled tour articles... add the things I mentioned the sources talking about, however. --K. Peake 19:28, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Tour cancellation

• Ref 9 should be at the end of the last sentence since it backs up that info too. However, it is not mentioned by any of the sources that the number of men were four, plus it only said the person had a "mask" not a ski one by mention and I can't seem to see any reference to him getting shot twice.

• The ski mask part is kept

• 7 mentions specifically that he died due to a torso wound; add a sentence about this.

Canceled shows

• Remove the reason part since not only is it the same for every show, but you referenced this in the previous section

References

• Copyvio score looks amazing at 3.8!
• Make sure all of these are archived by using the tool

•  Not done unless the tool is broken for you? --K. Peake 19:46, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• Cite Twitter as publisher instead for ref 4
• Cite Facebook as publisher instead for ref 5
• Remove wikilink on Twitter for ref 6 and cite as publisher instead
• Ref 7 and 8 are duplicates; make sure to keep the current one though since PF is a lot more reliable than TMZ

Final comments and verdict

•  On hold until you have fixed everything which shouldn't be long with this short article, but it was good to review one of yours for the first time in a while! --K. Peake 17:10, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Kyle Peake, done with all of your concerns. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 19:32, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

The Ultimate Boss Nice to see you have responded so quickly; I have done a brief amount of copy editing for things that did not exist as issues at the time of my review. Good work, but you have missed a few points and I've pointed them out above. --K. Peake 19:46, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Oops... Sorry I missed those. Done. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 19:55, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

The Ultimate Boss You still have not got rid of the ski mask mention or removed the wikilink and comma for mixtapes in the body. --K. Peake 21:10, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Kyle Peake Found a source that said one of them was wearing a skin mask; and removed comma and link. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 07:07, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

The Ultimate Boss That is good on your part, I just made an edit to the lead that I forgot to suggest and fixed the table where you had only partially implemented my suggested change about removing the reason. ✓ Pass! --K. Peake 07:11, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Feedback from New Page Review process

I left the following feedback for the creator/future reviewers while reviewing this article: Thank you for this article. Keep in mind that Facebook and Twitter are often referred to as user generated links and thus, not regarded as reliable references.

Thank you..

Whiteguru (talk) 06:18, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Merge with Meet the Woo mixtape articles and Pop's biography article

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

To merge Meet the Woo Tour into any of the three articles, for the benefit of context, the avoidance of overlap, and questions of independent notability. Klbrain (talk) 16:02, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

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This article is near stub-class length and the topic itself has no long-lasting notability, even for 20 days. The few independent sources about the tour itself are only brief announcements, while others are non-independent primary sources from the rapper's Twitter. Half of the citations (as well as body) of this article are mostly about Pop Smoke's death, which is explained in far more detail in the rapper's article, and not the tour. I know some editors are gonna bring up This Is It as an example of how even cancelled tours can be notable, but saying the differences between the Michael Jackson tour and Pop Smoke's tour are substantial doesn't even fully paint the picture. Although Jackson's tour never happened, the legal battles associated with it, the problems ticket buyers faced after the cancellation, the announcements' effects on record sales, and the fact the preparation footage itself turned into a successful-selling album and documentary had so much significant coverage unique to it it needed its own article and then some. I don't see any of this with the Meet the Woo Tour. I'm still proposing a merge, however, because it is still a part of Pop's life and career; I'd particularly would only place the tour listings in the mixtape articles. HumanxAnthro (talk) 01:38, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

HumanxAnthro, I will add more info as I have more reliable sources about the tour. Also, go away. You know next to nothing about Pop Smoke and his career. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 06:12, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

I will say the quote you just added does help this page a little more, but it's another source published upon the tour's announcement and still not enough to showcase the tour having more than WP:ONEVENT coverage. On a more important note, however, I can see my FA review is still not being taken so well. Sorry, but no article or talk page (apart from user's) is owned by anyone on here. We are all contributors to Wikipedia and other users (regardless if they're a fan of the subject) WILL comment on your contributions or suggest improvements whether you like it or not. I, as a contributor as well, will keep looking for problems I notice and make contributions wherever I can on any page regardless if I am fan of it. Thank you. HumanxAnthro (talk) 17:51, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

@The Ultimate Boss: You're doing a good job by getting articles in GA status, but telling another editors to "go away" is not civil and you could get in big trouble for that. Getting articles in FA status wasn't easy and this kind of behavior doesn't help at all. I advise you to keep improving the article and don't get angry with other editors who don't agree with your editing style. TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 19:50, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

user:TheAmazingPeanuts. I honestly don’t care if I get in trouble or not. I’m sick and tired of people like these treating me with a bitchy attitude. I respect you and not that asshole. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 20:27, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Merge - A lot of discussion and no voting. He never got a changce to perform this tour, so there are no reviews, setlists or any other coverage, just dates and some backgroud could be easily added to the mixtape and his biography. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 12:01, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

• Merge - This was an upcoming concert tour that will now never take place. A lot of the information is about the mixtape and the performer and not the tour itself, so the information here could be merged into either of those two articles. Aspects (talk) 15:46, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

  Y Merger complete. Klbrain (talk) 16:02, 16 October 2022 (UTC)