Talk:Mehmed I

§103.147.163.6 (talk) 11:34, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

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Name

I've always seen his nickname being "the Restorer". john k 18:35, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Removed out-of-date notice about Arabic in lead paragraaph; someone's put it in. --Carl Turner 09:58, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

• Yes, he restored the Ottoman State but his nicname Kirisci has a different story. According to the legend, in a time period, he had to work in constructuon sites because of the conflicts between him and the other royal family members that also wanted to be the new Sultan. It is just like a secret identity for him to be the Kirisci. With respect, the supporter of Nihal Atsız, Deliogul 22:21, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Do you have a source on that? john k 22:28, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes, according to Necdet Sakaoglu, there are two possible reasons for this nickname. Maybe other members of the royal family tried to kill him with a bow string(Kiriş in Turkish) or most commonly accepted possibility is the one I wrote on the top. The construction worker theory. With respect, Deliogul 17:15, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

As I said before, his nickname, Kirisci, wasn't given to him because he was a Executioner. So I'm deleting it. With respect, Deliogul 17:52, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

I have looked at the Sakaoglu reference as well and must revise the statement above. But before that I have looked at the Redhouse Buyuk Elsozlugu which gives the meanings of kiris as "(1) joist, beam, rafter, girder (2) catgut...(3) bowstring (of a shooting bow) 4...tendon". Thus the word kirisci refers to makers of bowstring and catgut (definitely not to joist etc. making at construction sites!!) According to Sakaoglu the reasons for getting the nickname of "kirisci" are "either when he was a young prince someone wanted to strangulate and kill him with a catgut-bowstring or that in order to hide himself from the threat of being killed by his brothers he got apprenticed with a bowstring maker". These have nothing to do with being a construction worker or executioner!! Sakaoglu states that his other nickname may be "kiri" which may be because "he was a good wrestler when young".Noyder (talk) 17:08, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Mahomet or Mehmet

In the text, one can read:

Mahomet I. also completed the vast and magnificent mosque at Bursa, which his grandfather Murad I. had commenced

Are Mehmet and Mahomet the same? I would appreciate any reference to that effect. Thanks. Sphinxx 15:06, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Mehmet is the Turkish translation of the name Muhammed and there is not a name like Mahomet in Turkish. With respect, Deliogul 17:26, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Date of birth

There is a controversy about the date of birth of Mehmed I. There are various dates suggested. This article has three dates 1382/1387/1389 with 1389 emphasized. One authoritative Turkish historian, Necdet Sakaoglu, puts the birth date as early as 1373 and mentions that other suggested dates are 1375, 1379, 1386, 1390, 1391. This is curious since none of these are the dates stated in this article!! (Sakaoglu, N. (1999), Bu Mulkun Sultanlari Istanbul: Oglak p. 63). However, that same authority concludes that "it would be correct to admit that we do not know exactly the birth dates of Yildirim and his sons". Given this I have deleted the mention of his age at his death.Noyder (talk) 16:28, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Sitti Mukrime Hatun

Sitti Mukrime Hatun (born 1453) was the wife of Mehmed II not the wife of Mehmed I. Mehmed I had been dead for 32 years before she was even born. I 'll correct this in the article. She is also confused again with Emine Hatun as Mehmed I's wife and mother of Murad II in the Dulkadir article. Ibrahim4048 (talk) 19:13, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

1382, NOT 1389!

Mehmed I was born in 1382. Böri (talk) 11:40, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Cilicia

In section His reign it is claimed that he conquered the Armenian Kingdom of Cilicia from the Mamelukes. Armenian kingdom was destroted in 1375 by Ramazanoğlu in the name of Egyptian Mamluk. But Ottomans annexed the territory in 1516-1517, approximatelly one century after Mehmet I. I'll call the editor. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 02:01, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Mustafa

Can anyone provide sources on that Mustafa was heir appearant after Ertugrul's death? Suleiman was the eldest brother, wasn't he the one?103.147.163.6 (talk) 11:34, 9 June 2021 (UTC)