Talk:Memoria

Past tense

Everything on this page is in past tense. I've always been taught that memoria is a "past canon" in rhetoric because we tend to avoid memorizing speeches through various methods like teleprompters, iPads, notecards, etc...; but the other history of rhetoric pages are in present tense and I don't see a source cited to justify this. Thoughts?Countercharm (talk) 01:32, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Nonsense

The first sentence of the section headed "Memoria in the Renaissance" makes no sense to me... "When the Humanists took up the ideas on memory found the writings of Classical authors, memoria played an important role in the pedagogical system."

Off topic

I have moved this from the article, because is totally off topic:

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Ehjort 16:26, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

if that was the case then we would have to add 'memoria' being a key lyric in 'come as you are' by nirvana, considering the fame of the song —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.251.37.25 (talk) 21:24, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

disambiguation

this page is going to need to move so we can distinguis between the current Memoria (rhetoric) and Memoria (Christian feast) which alos points to this page: "In the New Testament Paul of Tarsus organised his missionary travels around the celebration of Pentecost. (Acts 20.16 and 1 Corinthians 16.8) This practice draws from Jewish tradition, with such feasts as the Feast of Tabernacles, the Passover, and the Jubilee. Today Catholics, Eastern Christians, and traditional Protestant communities frame worship around a liturgical calendar, which consists of a set of cycles of liturgical seasons observed annually. This includes holy days, such as solemnities which commemorate an event in the life of Jesus or the saints, periods of fasting such as Lent, and other pious events such as memoria or lesser festivals commemorating saints. Some Christian groups that do not follow a liturgical tradition often retain certain celebrations, such as Christmas, Easter and Pentecost. A few churches make no use of a liturgical calendar." --Just nigel 03:04, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Inbreeding in Europe?

Is this part really serious? Or just badly phrased?

"Ancient peoples used their memories to store large amounts of information. Today, people are far less intelligent due mainly to inbreeding and a devastating plaque virus that wiped out the intelligent classes in Europe in 1456 therefore today we use literate and electronic memory systems. Literate memory systems include books, periodicals, and libraries. Electronic systems include computers, databases, computer software, the World Wide Web, and other artificial memory devices (Crowley and Hawhee 325-28)."

It seems unlikely one should blame the plague for the existence of the Internet etc. Also, though I am far from an expert in this field, does not the discussion on when writing was becoming a threat to our ability to remember go much further back, like to Plato? Some story about how Thoth invented writing, if I remember things correctly.

I think the "memory systems" of Homer and the like were history already in Plato's time.

I wont make any changes to the page though, as, again, I am far from an expert in this field. I just wanted to point this out now that I happened to notice it (I hope I am not pointing in out in the wrong way, if so, please let me know.)

Kjell Pettersson (talk) 15:58, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

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