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Does Plato's Socrates really satirize Thucydides' funeral oration of Pericles?

Latest comment: 10 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

I don't agree that Plato's Socrates "satirizes" Thucydides' funeral oration of Pericles in the speech that he gives. That's simply not an accurate reading of the speech, and I invite anyone who thinks differently to reread it.

Socrates mocks the flattery typical of such speeches, but the speech he gives is meant to be an example of a funeral oration that doesn't flatter either the Athenians, the dead, or their city.

To put it simply, Plato, through his mouthpeice Socrates, criticizes somethnig, flattering funeral orations, and then gives, to his mind at least, a proper example, a funneral speech that doesn't flatter.

Reread the speech. It is no satire.

76.19.63.222 (talk) 22:08, 29 November 2013 (UTC) Michael ChristianReply

Thanks, Michael. Yes, that it is a satire as such is one opinion, of which there are a few. I changed the text so that it just says that it references Pericles' speech. Obviously this article could include more content covering the different understandings of the work. --Atethnekos (Discussion, Contributions) 22:21, 29 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

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