Talk:Meningococcal vaccine

Worldwide

Vaccines are not only used or produced in the US. It would do good either to include other vaccine brands in the list, or to remove branding and focus on generic vaccine types. US "FDA approvals" are as relevant as formal approvals in any other country or region (UK, EU, India, China, Russia, etc.), and focusing just on US is against WP:Worldwide. kashmiri 10:15, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

MenAfriVac

February 2013

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Meningococcal vaccine, you may be blocked from editing. You continue adding the same unsourced material despite its removal by other editors. This constitutes vandalism. You are warned. kashmiri 22:50, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

   If this is a shared IP address, and you did not make the edit, consider creating an account for yourself so you can avoid further irrelevant notices.iri

Kashmiri: a) The material is not only sourced and reference is provided but the facts have been proven. b) Please be aware that we have secured the previous unreserved recommendation for MenAfriVac which Wikipedia/you had placed there despite better knowledge and thereby mislead people to believe that this vaccine (MenAfriVac) under the CTC scheme would be safe. c) Though you have changed now the text which you insist should be the only one placed there, you are still withholding crucial information about the fact that the vaccine can not be considered safe and actually has not even a full licence. d) By continuously removing the text we placed on Wikipedia you render yourself as well as Wikipedia itself liable and will possibly be held responsible for further incidences. e) Please note that - by having earlier recommended this vaccination unconditionally and by persistently refusing to have a warning posted - Wikipedia/you might have to be ensued in a pending lawsuit against those who vaccinated the children in Chad and caused the harm there as well as concerning other, upcoming cases. You have been warned

a) You included not a single references to back up your text. See WP:MEDRS for a list of accepatble sources.

b) Giving medical advice or recommending any medicine is not Wikipedia's role, nor I ever did this under any other article.

c) See a). A warning can definitely be included if it is mentioned by MEDRS.

d) Hope it is a joke. See WP:NOT

e) Same as b) and d).

kashmiri 17:51, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

This is your last warning. The next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Meningococcal vaccine, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. kashmiri 10:41, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

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STOP harassing Target/relay/proxy: 89.187.142.72 - they have nothing to do with this, Kashmiri. You better call all your interference off, otherwise we will take your challenge up and respond to your declaration of a cyberwar !

Edit warring will result in a block - see WP:WAR. kashmiri 17:51, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Here are lives of people at stake and it is a matter which can not be left to your ignorance. ... and btw stop using words whose roots you don't know or understand - the Vandals are nice people compared to you. You are a disgrace for Wikipedia and I urge your minders to withdraw your status so that you can no longer harass contributors and keep knowledge away from the people.

WP:Personal? Okay, that's another violation of the Wikipedia policy. If you are unable to respect the terms and conditions of editing articles here, why don't you go elsewhere? Just go play some football, update your Facebook status, etc. kashmiri 17:51, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

I urge you for the last time to put up the following text (and leave it standing):

However, in 2010, when the new conjugate MenAfriVac vaccine jab (out of traditional cold chain) was given to 356,532 young people in Filingué, Niger, already 87 AEFI (Adverse Events Following Immunisation) were observed between September 21 and November 11, 2010, and one person died at the health centre of "unclassifiable" cause. 10 cases with severe convulsions were back then brushed aside as possibly "coincidental Malaria", though the EU report placed a big question mark on these findings.

Starting on December 11, 2012, around 500 young people, aged between 1 and 29 years, as well as babies below one year were forcefully vaccinated with the MenAfriVac vaccine at the small village of Gouro in the North of the Republic of Chad, which has a total population of below one thousand inhabitants, is located in the remote North of the country and far outside the so-called Meningitis Belt.

106 of the inoculated young persons fell immediately sick with severe physical implications like paralysis, extremely strong, uncontrollable convulsions, moaning, excessive salivation, vomiting, headaches, coma-like collapse etc. 56 cases were immediately transported to the regional hospital in Faya. The cases were at first confirmed by a governmental delegation sent to Faya and then by the Health Minister.

The investigation is ongoing, while 38 of the most severe cases were evacuated onwards to the capital N'Djamena as well as seven - without the knowledge or consent of the parents - to a private hospital in Tunis, the capital of Tunisia. After the seriously ill and incapacitated vaccine-victims were visited by the Prime Minister of the Republic of Chad in their hospital in N'Djamena the MenAfriVac vaccination project in Chad was halted.

Two month on many of the young patients have not recovered, but all were sent back to the remote village near the border with Libya, where no medical doctor is available.

Until the incident is completely, independently and transparently investigated the MenAfriVac vaccine, which is not fully licensed anyway, should not be considered as safe and any vaccination using MenAfriVac under the CTC scheme should be stopped. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.187.142.72 (talk) 15:59, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

That's completely WP:unsourced and has no place in any Wikipedia article. And it will be reverted. kashmiri 17:50, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

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Proposed merge with NmVac4-A/C/Y/W-135

Is a type of meningococcal vaccine and shouldn't need its own article–not enough to discuss and the article in its current state is full of a lot of WP:PROMO. {{ping|waddie96}} {talk} 14:01, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

• Support But lots of clean up issues needed first. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 16:38, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Pinging frequent editors (MartinezMD—TylerDurden8823—DePiep—Tornado chaser—Chris the speller—Wuerzele) {{ping|waddie96}} {talk} 17:30, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

• Support as well with similar recommendations - remove promo, remove redundancy, remove minutia. Its entire "medical use" section can likely be summarized in 2-3 sentences rather than 10 paragraphs when moving it over. MartinezMD (talk) 23:39, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Oppose; since the merge was proposed there has been a lot of (appropriate) pruning and what is left is sufficiently well-referenced to support the material and to justify a separate page. For pharmacology articles, I'm generally a fan of merging brand names to generic names, but vaccines can be quite distinct even when they're targeting the same organism or virus. Klbrain (talk) 20:38, 25 August 2020 (UTC)