Talk:Menninger Foundation

Appraisal

Added "citation needed" to sentence "However, the Foundation's failure to accept the role of psychosocial elements, such as poverty and trauma, in the etiology of mental illness, has resulted in its work being of little more than historical importance[citation needed]." Should the entire section entitled "Menninger Reputation" be moved to the talk page unless or until justified by citations? I believe that would be consistent with the page's warnings, but I leave this for more experienced editors to decide. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MidwestGeek (talk • contribs) 17:20, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

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This might be shallow, but can it be mentioned that the Menninger's attracted some fairly famous patients? For example Gene Tierney, Robert Hudson Walker, and Jack Williamson?--T. Anthony 15:43, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Although Menninger Clinic has attained status, the reality is that it is notorious for long and expensive lengths of stay at a level of care frequently more intense than medically necessary. The current article fails to clarify the financial structure of this facility other than using the word, 'Foundation'. How the income from this facility is disbursed might be of interest to those seeking cost-effective treatment options. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:93F1:4970:449C:AB22:F208:8D97 (talk) 23:07, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

Finding Sources

Google Search hits:G; Google News all time hits: GN; Google Books hits; GB; Google Scholar hits; GS

["Menninger Foundation"]G: 18,600 ; GN:1,360; GB:1461 ; GS:3,080 --Keerllston 20:02, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Merge proposal: W. Walter Menninger to Menninger Foundation

W. Walter Menninger doesn't seem to be independently notable - but could be a useful mention in here. Boleyn (talk) 21:58, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

• Oppose at this point, proposing a merger on notability would be the same as declaring a PROD or AFD. But without the PROD or AFD. I say we stick to procedure.--Paul McDonald (talk) 05:03, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
• Merge discussion closed Boleyn (talk) 17:58, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

Archives

The Menninger Foundation Archives, including corporate records, are held by the Kansas Historical Society. The Administrative Histories provided in various series are a good resource for mapping out organizational structure and personnel. Dnllnd (talk) 19:53, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Famous Patients

Moved from article to talk: poorly referenced, not convinced is of major significance. RJFJR (talk) 14:56, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

Because of its excellent reputation, the Menninger Clinic became the mental health inpatient treatment center of choice for Hollywood stars and other celebrities. Among these were: Max Bemis, Richard Carpenter, Dorothy Dandridge, Brett Favre, Judy Garland, Bill Hayward (son of actress, Margaret Sullavan and producer, Leland Hayward), Marilyn Monroe, Gene Tierney, and Robert Walker.

US News and World Report ranking

I removed the sentences below because they didn't appear to serve a purpose other than to bolster the value of the magazine's rankings, which have been questioned. (Also, the citation link was incorrect because it led to a page that explained the ranking process for 2023-24 rather than 2019-2020):

The rankings are based on performance in meeting certain criteria, and are given a grade in each section and an overall scorecard. The eligibility requirements to participate are such that only 165 hospitals were considered for evaluation. Wethewiki (talk) 22:31, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

I suggest cutting the ranking mention altogether; it could be misleading because it's outdated. At the time of this writing (Aug. 2024), US News and World Report did not rank the hospital but listed it as "high performing." Wethewiki (talk) 22:37, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Citations and clarification needed

This paragraph needs citations and clarification of when the research on mentalizing was conducted or organized. (I edited out "recently" because the paragraph contained no indication of a time period or year.)

The Menninger Clinic remains one of the primary North American settings supporting psychodynamically informed research on clinical diagnosis, assessment, and treatment. Recently, efforts have been organized around the construct of mentalizing, a concept integrating research activities related to attachment, theory of mind, internal representations, and neuroscience. Wethewiki (talk) 22:55, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

The sentence below is very unclear. I suspect it means to say that the clinic is doing research on mentalizing, not that mentalizing is "a concept integrating research activities."

Recently, efforts have been organized around the construct of mentalizing, a concept integrating research activities related to attachment, theory of mind, internal representations, and neuroscience. Wethewiki (talk) 23:06, 30 August 2024 (UTC)