Talk:Menudo (soup)
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Copyright?
editMost of the text is copied from http://deependdining.blogspot.com/2004/12/menudo-toms-1-santa-monica-ca.html, which is mentioned in 'see also' but not mentioned as source. How does this jive with WP's stance on copyright?
Also I'd like to see some more about the history of menudo =) - Shai-kun 19:20, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
Yes, this is absolutely a copyright violation. 216.244.2.110 19:39, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
The segment about the peons and the best cuts of meat going to the lords sounds like historical dramatization--not unlikely but unsubstantiated nevertheless. The reality is that the stomach of many animals was eaten by many early civilizations. The Scottish have haggis. The Spaniards have something called callos. So, I think this portion needs to be reviewed. Drakofranco@aol.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.140.22.180 (talk • contribs)
- Part of the problem... and this applies to burritos as well... is many of the culinary traditions of Mexico were oral, trying to find decent written references might be difficult. I think I need to sit down with some books by Diana Kennedy, who has written the most thorough English language documentation of the subject of Mexican cuisine, she probably covered this in one of her books. Tubezone 03:18, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
- I have removed segments of the article which seem to be directly lifted from the blog in question. If anyone notices any more plagiarized segments, please remove them. -Loren 01:59, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Menudo on the Weekend?
editDoes anyone know why most restaurants only serve menudo on the weekend? Adowoody238 00:52, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
- I think it's to give patrons an extra day to recover beforing going back to work. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.158.61.172 (talk) 17:20, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
- I think it's due to the extensive preparation time required. Most Mexican restaurants that serve menudo that I'm aware of in the U.S. only serve it on Sundays. Mike R (talk) 17:44, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
- Tripe needs to cook two hours at least; many recipes call for four hours. Dr Aaij (talk) 21:15, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
I know menudo is used extensively as a medicine to fight hangover by Mexicans, so it's most popular on the weekends 74.99.9.35 (talk) 01:43, 3 October=== 2010 (UTC)
about the use for hangover
editIt is said that hangover, in spanish cruda, is cured by eating something with chile, peppercorns. The menudo and chilaquiles are popular dishes with chile served as breakfast for los crudos (guys with hangover). contrary to popular belief menudo is probably the worst thing you can do after a night of drinking. menudo is high in fat, which like alcohol will be processed in the liver. this will add to the already heavy workload the liver has to deal with.
Does Someone Really Think This Is Necessary?
editThis article states: "Menudo is eaten with corn tortillas. The tortillas are placed on the hand flat and rolled with the other from the tip of the fingers to the back of the palm (or vice versa) and held with the hand not using the spoon. The rolled tortilla can be dipped in the menudo and a bite taken or bites taken as the menudo is consumed." Geez, maybe I should check out the Wiki article on urination to get instructions on how to...Jmdeur (talk) 17:14, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
- Actually, yes, this is very helpful. I have never tried menudos, and think that this is valuable advice. 216.99.201.204 (talk) 08:37, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Do prices vary?
editI guess it goes without saying that prices of menudos vary, but what is considered a good price at a Mexican restaurant, and when is it not so much of a bargain? What is a typical price for a bowl of menudos?
Also, is it ever served on plate instead of a bowl?216.99.201.204 (talk) 08:39, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Is menudos considered a plural noun?
editA local restaurant by me advertises menudos, plural. In Spanish, does it have the weight of a plural noun? Or is it supposed to be a singular?
Does one order a bowl of menudo, or a bowl of menudos? 216.99.201.204 (talk) 08:42, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
It's a bowl of menudo. 74.99.9.35 (talk) 01:43, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
The name is menudo, the etymology of the name for the dish is wrong in the article
editNo, menudo is singular and plural, it refers to the less valuable parts of the animals, it's viscera (guts). The name of the dish is menudo o pancita, simply because that is the name for the stomach of the cow in México. In Spain, the stomach is called callos. See http://rae.es/menudo The etymology of menudo is the same as minute, it means something detailed,small pieces. It also means small value coins, but the dish is not named after this meaning of menudo as said in the article. it is called menudo just because it is the menudo of a cow. I am an spanish native speaker.
The name of the article should be Menudo o Pancita, or pancita redirecting to menudo or vice versa, because pancita is the diminutive of panza, which means stomach.
I suggest to eliminate the etymology section, just tell that menudo is the name of the stomach of the cow in Mexico in the introduction of the article. Also to mention that menudo is called pancita in other regions of Mexico.
In ordering menudo in Spanish. For one bowl of menudo, you say, "dame un menudo." If you order two bowls of menudo, you say, "dame dos menudos." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.251.157.180 (talk) 04:09, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
A clear recipe is needed
editI looked for this article, because I wanted to see a recipe, because I know one that uses Chile Guajillo and oregano. As I know it, it does not have too much garlic. I know the variant of the center of Mexico, not the way it is cooked in Jalisco.
In the part about the variants of the dish, in my home we prepare it with ram meat and maiz (pozole+pancita+birria), but I do not know the origin of this style, maybe it is from the northwest states as told in the article.
- Wikipedia is not the appropriate place for recipes. You want wikibooks:cookbooks Vertigo Acid (talk) 22:44, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Is this soup a wiki prank? The word menudo in Spanish means entrails.
editWhile the words "traditional" and "popular" are used in the article, there are people who have tried and don't like menudo soup. Concerning the menudo soup I tried last week: 1. There were no noodles in it. 2. Although it looked like a bowl of pieces of chicken, the stuff was rubbery and blubbery, like fat cut from meat and like steamed clams. After an internet search I discovered it is tripe soup. It contains things such as: beef stomach, pigs feet, sheep stomach, beef tongue, beef feet and tendons. Even if baked all day I doubt tendons and stomach and feet would be palatable. Others don't like menudo. For example, Gina wrote in Blogger in 2010, "I do not like menudo. Its gross."ref http://hungrygina.blogspot.com/2010/01/menudo-soup-not-band.html ref Mr. Young wrote at that site in 2008 about Menudo ". . . it taste like a rubbery piece of unwashed gym sock. It’s disgusting . . . this was probably the least enjoyed of all my foods of questionable taste."ref http://ofquestionabletaste.blogspot.com/2008/04/its-menudo-and-no-not-mexican-boy-band.html ref In Yahoo Answers in 2008, Besony wrote "... I have tried it, and just didn't appreciate the taste."ref http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080404054119AAJuCbx ref Wikipedia, which used to be Nupedia, has a history on this soup since 2004. Therefore, is this soup a prank? The word menudo in Spanish means entrails. --75.36.38.134 (talk) 22:14, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
- That this soup has been called "traditional" is a verifiable fact; that it tastes bad (if it does), does not matter. An encyclopedia is supposed to state verifiable facts the way they are and Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. Imagine an encyclopedia saying that a particular soup doesn't taste good and that another one does. Those are opinions, not facts.
- What could be called a fact is if say a well-known scientific organization conducts a research and finds that say 76% of the people the research was conducted on didn't like the soup, but the thing is, researches like that are usually not done, since taste is once again a personal preference and depends from person to person.
- Also, those "references" are as good as null; we need published sources like newspaper articles, books published by notable people, journals, etc. See Identifying reliable sources. Smtchahal (talk) 20:10, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
I Deleted a Recipe Link, and um, stuff
editI deleted the statement:
"A positive first experience will invariably lead to a greater appreciation and understanding of why the like of[1] ranks high in the world as a renowned and traditional culinary experience."
Because it seemed more "opiniony" than fact. The ref there, is of course, a link to a recipe. I see in the above conversation here: "Wikipedia is not the appropriate place for recipes. You want wikibooks:cookbooks" So I'm guessing that link should go too, but I haven't exactly read the orificial wikipedia policy on links to recipes in articles about food, if such a thing exists.. I imagine that a positive first experience in editing wikipedia articles will invariably lead to a greater appreciation and understanding of why the likes of [2] ranks high in the world as a renowned and traditional encyclopedic experience, but I'm not sure how informative or important that statement is, and I'm pretty sure it could be easily modified to apply similarly to just about any subject matter. OwlParty (talk) 14:18, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
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