Talk:2008 Jerusalem yeshiva attack

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July 2018- Can any permitted editors add the following tribute volume as a reference regarding the attack- https://www.amazon.com/Princes-Among-Men-Memories-Eight/dp/1598262912 ? Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.38.246.212 (talk) 20:47, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

Requested move 29 June 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved per Common Name among sources (non-admin closure) >>> Extorc.talk 08:46, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

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Mercaz HaRav massacre → 2008 Jerusalem yeshiva attack – In the sections above where the naming has been discussed, the requirement that the name reflect the usage in reliable sources is completely ignored. At one time there was an article 2008 Jerusalem yeshiva attack which was merged with this one and I think that ought to be the proper name. Selfstudier (talk) 09:59, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

Comment Example sourcing

BBC, shooting/attack

Guardian shooting

Ynet shooting

Haaretz attack

NYT attack

and there are many more. Selfstudier (talk) 10:06, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

• Support a move. The use of "massacre" in a title is generally problematic; there is no consensus among scholars on what a massacre is, and as a potentially contentious label we should only use it when it is the WP:COMMONNAME for an event, per WP:NPOVNAME. Since it does not appear to be for this attack, this article needs to be moved. BilledMammal (talk) 11:09, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
• Support move to "shooting", "attack", or "killings". This is easy: go to the references – almost all have titles – and search for "massacre": zero. To find comparable article titles, try any "List of massacres in X" article, such as for the U.S., and you'll see that it's a pretty rare term in the modern day for most countries, especially for terrorist attacks. That this attack was politically supported (as in, opposition supporters publicly praised it) makes it more akin to terrorism as well, regardless of the killer's motive. There's also no consistency for any rational metric of terror, except maybe once people are shocked past a threshold they no longer consider mass shootings to be massacres (compare say San Ysidro and Columbine, both titled massacres, with their more horrific successors). And for those editors who see this as part of some greater political/moral fight, there's plenty of other places on the internet for you to go to make your stand. (Note: I was invited to comment here by another editor. I have no interest in or concern for this region or its politics.) SamuelRiv (talk) 16:40, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose : the "neutral" word "attack" gives a gist of legitimacy to the atrocity. Aslo, the incident does not have a proper name, therefore the title must be descriptive and meaningful. "attack" is vague term. Loew Galitz (talk) 20:07, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Names of victims

This article does not list the names of the children who were murdered:

Avraham Moses, Doron Mahareta, Yohai Lipshitz, Yonadav Hirshfeld, Yehonatan Eldar, Neria Cohen, Ro’i Roth, Segev Avihail.

Source: https://mercazharav.org.il/en/en/the-yeshiva-yizkor/ 77.137.74.216 (talk) 05:45, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 13 July 2023

Remove “massacre” DeadlyRagDoll (talk) 20:26, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

 Not done for now: No rationale was provided. Deauthorized. ^(talk) 00:33, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

Glorification of Terrorist with Photo

Image of terrorist glorifies his murders. Remove. 67.217.126.125 (talk) 05:04, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

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