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editWhere did methodist missionaries of denomination first land 202.4.33.179 (talk) 04:21, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
- Which country?KitHutch (talk) 17:48, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
"Wesleyism" listed at Redirects for discussion
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The redirect Wesleyism has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 15 § Wesleyism until a consensus is reached. 1234qwer1234qwer4 13:22, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
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editDefining Methodism as a "group of historically related denominations" is inaccurate and does not reflect the scope of the article. It's a tradition, a branch of the Christian tree in the Protestant category. A tradition is more than a set of denominations. Its founders were practicing Methodism before any Methodist denominations existed. People and institutions are Methodist, not just denominations. Please see the terminology preferred by comparable articles Lutheranism, Anglicanism, Presbyterianism, Congregationalism, even narrower subjects like Keswickianism. Dirkwillems (talk) 01:36, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- The scope of this article has more to do with Methodism as a movement. Wesleyan theology (what you describe) is described in focus on its article. ~ Pbritti (talk) 03:41, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- You are wrong. Nothing about my description narrows the sentence to theology. You are failing to engage with my point.
- I have made another edit but included an academic citation defining Methodism as a "Christian tradition." If you find competing citations defining it as a "group of denominations", please present them. Dirkwillems (talk) 14:49, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Please note WP:BRD as standard practice for this sort of thing. If you have been repeatedly reverted by multiple editors, it is inappropriate to further restore or modify the content in contention without securing consensus. However, your additional citation is productive and I have no interest in prolonging the discussion when I would only make trivial changes. If you have questions, let me know. Best, ~ Pbritti (talk) 15:01, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- It is inappropriate to revert edits without sufficient substantiation in the edit summary. Since appropriate explanation was not provided, I felt I must insist to make this correction. Dirkwillems (talk) 15:23, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Please note WP:BRD as standard practice for this sort of thing. If you have been repeatedly reverted by multiple editors, it is inappropriate to further restore or modify the content in contention without securing consensus. However, your additional citation is productive and I have no interest in prolonging the discussion when I would only make trivial changes. If you have questions, let me know. Best, ~ Pbritti (talk) 15:01, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- My main objection to your revision is I think the label "Protestant" should be somewhere in the lead, if not in the first sentence. --Hazhk (talk) 15:35, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- My original edit read "branch of Protestantism." The current one reads "Christian tradition" just because that's exactly the term used by the citation I added, but I think we could add "protestant" in there too if you like. Thanks. Dirkwillems (talk) 15:50, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- OK, I'll add 'Protestant'. -- Hazhk (talk) 17:35, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- My original edit read "branch of Protestantism." The current one reads "Christian tradition" just because that's exactly the term used by the citation I added, but I think we could add "protestant" in there too if you like. Thanks. Dirkwillems (talk) 15:50, 11 April 2024 (UTC)