Talk:Methylhexanamine

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The information with this one on this Wikipedia page is essentially the same as the seller's web page. Also the link to the product which "contains" this special ingredient is the seller's product page. The person that submitted the original "article" either needs to add more documentation, for instance a biochemistry source, or Wikipedia needs to remove it.Rongrossman 01:34, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

I added chemical data and removed the unsourced advertisement stuff. -- Ed (Edgar181) 18:25, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

"Similar to Amphetamine"

I am becoming annoying with reading the statement "is similar to amphetamine" in every article on every molecule with more than two carbons and an amine. Until there is some peer reviewed evidence that this molecule has amphetamine like activity it is premature to begin to begin comparisons to addicting phychostimulants. The phenethylamine comparison is sufficient and appropriate. 71.186.179.44 (talk) 09:37, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

I agree adrenergic drugs are NOT similar to amphetamines, it's outrageous that the media and others constantly try to demonize any compound that has marginal CNS stimulant effects. The same thing has happened with ephedrine for many years even though it has virtually no dopamine activity and is a relativily pure adrenergic agonist. The media wants shocking news that sell and so want everything to be dangerous and addictive. But geranamine is a petty adrenergic stimulant, it's ABSURD to compare it to amphetamine. Hell, it's less stimulating than ephedrine from Ma Huang. Sure it can make your heart beat 200 BPM but that's not the same as having amphetamine like activity or any mental stimulating effect. Dopamine release in the CNS is required for that. I'm sure coffee is more addictive! But as the old say, even the gods fight in vain against stupidity. T.R. 87.59.76.185 (talk)

Four Stereoisomers

Methylhexanamine has two stereocenters. Thus, four stereoisomers may exist: (2S,4S), (2R,4R), (2S,4R), and (2R,4S). Is 4-methyl-2-hexanamine a mixture of all four stereoisomers or just a mixture of (2S,4S) and (2R,4R)? It could be also a mixture of (2S,4R) and (2R,4S) or even a pure (which?) stereoisomer. --Jü (talk) 07:54, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Spelling

Any clue as to the correct spelling? This article spells the compound as both 'methylhexanamine' and 'methylhexanEamine', I suspect following the whim of individual wiki writers. Web references are just as random. The most common spelling seems to be 'methylhexanamine', but there are almost half as many references to the other spelling. Is there any authority for trivial chemical names?

Caffeine LD50

This article quotes the oral LD50 of caffeine as 700-1000 mg. This would mean a dose of 60-80 GRAMS of caffeine for a typical person. This seems extremely excessive, and may imply to some people that it's safe to consume several grams without adverse effects. I cannot look up the cited articles as they aren't on the internet. Can anybody clear up if these citations are speaking the truth? Can better articles be found? Bobber0001 (talk) 23:14, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Regulatory Status

Methylhexanamine is not naturally occurring in geranium, as the article suggests. This misunderstanding comes from a paper in an obscure Chinese journal where the authors mis-identified a peak in the GC-MS chromatogram. The paper has been largely discredited, and American Herbal Products Association, after review of the paper and numerous other data, has stated that methylhexanamine is not naturally occurring in geranium. Because this is a non-naturally occurring compound that was not in the US diet prior to 1994 (the year DSHEA was passed), a New Dietary Ingredient application would need to be filed with the FDA demonstrating the safety of this ingredient. Since one has never been filed, any dietary supplement containing the compound would be considered adulterated. 173.65.172.231 (talk) 17:34, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Considering that a quick google turned this[1] up, I'm going to go ahead and remove the claim that this compound naturally occurs in the geranium. -Akhonji (talk) 04:33, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

I also removed the bits relating to this claim, such as the equivalency of synthetic and naturally occurring chemicals in supplements- it read a little like promotional material, so I nixed it unless there are any objections. -Akhonji (talk) 04:56, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

New case

Please add the latestt doping case, in long jump venezuelan Víctor Castillo was found positive for methylhexanamine, giving the chilean Daniel Pineda the gold medal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.215.147.30 (talk) 00:01, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Claire Squires Death

Claire Squires marathon runner death might be relevant.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-21262717 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.5.227.196 (talk) 13:06, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

New York Times

Fairly detailed story in the New York Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/17/business/a-soldiers-parents-take-aim-at-gnc-and-a-supplement-maker.html

Is the Seller to Blame? Workout Supplement Challenged After Death of Soldier

By NATASHA SINGER and PETER LATTMAN

New York Times

March 15, 2013

--Nbauman (talk) 03:34, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

edit warring IP: WP:BLP, WP:VERIFY

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are violating two policies. Please read WP:BLP and WP:VERIFY. The content you are adding is not in the source. It cannot be included in WP. If you have a source for it, please add it. Thanks. Jytdog (talk) 22:24, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Related componds

DMAA have similar compounds like DMBA and Tuaminoheptane. I think links to this compound should be added. 87.252.225.23 (talk) 16:04, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Ref pages in reference?

I see the {{rp|page number}} after many references I was wondering if we should page numbers to the references instead of having them visible at the end of the ref. Any thoughts? Ralphw (talk) 16:07, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

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Contradictory Information

Abstract and History section mention two different times for when it was voluntarily withdrawn from the market.

"until it was voluntarily withdrawn from the market in the 1970s.[2]"

vs.

"Lilly voluntarily withdrew methylhexanamine from the market in 1983.[6]"

Which one is the correct date? Tahome (talk) 06:01, 8 June 2019 (UTC)