Talk:Metroliner (train)

Should create separate Budd Metroliner article

This catch-all article is more about the Metroliner service and is very short on details. The Budd Metroliners themsevles have operated services other than the Metroliner; towards the end of their lives as multiple units, they operated between New York and Harrisburg PA as the Capitoliners, and when all remaining MUs were converted to push-pull cab cars, they were put into service on NYP-HAR as Keystone Corridor trains. Therefore the history of the Budd Metroliner trainsets themselves warrants separate treatment.

71.241.88.34 (talk) 21:29, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Agreed, the article covers two separate things, Metroliner EMUs, and Metroliner service, which was originally run with the EMUs, but later with standard loco-hauled coaches. The current combined setup has a high potential of causing confusion.oknazevad (talk) 18:09, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Agree We'll need to scoop up some more information for it to be a good article but it's definitely worth doing. Murjax (talk) 18:46, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

End of Metroliner service

As a Trains Magazine subscriber, I was able to check the url submitted and verify the details there, but not all of our readers here are subscribers. We need a freely available reference to list as well. I don't see anything on Amtrak's site about it yet, and I don't see anything at the other news sites yet. Slambo (Speak) 22:43, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Deleted a link as it was dead.

Is the Metroliner gone or not? I can't find anything in current news sources to verify this. Mackensen (talk) 03:18, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

It's long gone. It was revived briefly when the Acela Express trainsets needed to be taken out of service for warranty work, but nowadays, there is absolutely no Metroliner Service.

71.241.88.34 (talk) 21:29, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

The Northeast Regional service provides pretty much the equivalent level of service as the old Metroliner. If you want to be technical about it, Metroliner was re-branded as Northeast Regional (or Northeast Direct at that time) when Acela came about. The other detail is that the Metroliner coaches were sent elsewhere in the system and older, but rebuilt, Amfleet coaches were put on Northeast Regional service.--KJRehberg (talk) 03:31, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Technicaly correction: Amfleets are newer that the Metroliner EMUs, which we're the first of the tubular "Amcan" design. The Amfleets are the locohauled version, while the Budd SPV-2000s were the DMU version that never quite worked right. oknazevad (talk) 17:21, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Merge with Budd Metroliner?

both articles seam rather small, this one is essentially just a more detailed peace of history on the cars. I think we should throw this hole article into a new section in the Budd Metroliner article. anyone else think so?--Alex at kms (talk) 06:11, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose merge; Lumping these 2 disparate subjects together is like combining chickens and omelets..after all, they both started out as eggs, right? WuhWuzDat 10:16, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose merge. The equipment and the route have a separate history and there is significant room for expansion. Mackensen (talk) 10:49, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose. Did the nominator read the above discussion as to why they were split in the first place? This article covers the service, which used different equipment types during it's lifetime, while the other covers one specific model of equipment. If anything, the merge should go the other way, but that would just undo a split that had, and apparently still has, consensus. I'm removing the tags per WP:SNOW. oknazevad (talk) 12:44, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

I did, but i disagree with the consensus that was reached. by all rights shouldn't there be another 2 separate articles, one on the pc operation of the car and one on the prr operation of the cars. I just felt it was over kill, only as the content of the article is so small.--Alex at kms (talk) 20:36, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Branded service

Not covered in this article are some of the branded Metroliner services, such as the New England Metroliner and the San Diego Metroliner. Goldberg mentions them in his Trains article and there are other resources available (see this official brochure for the New England service). They may warrant a separate section under History. Mackensen (talk) 16:21, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

Update Lede to better reflect when metroliner service was phased out

This article is about the Metroliner service and not the actual Budd Metroliner rolling stock, right? The lede states that the Acelas did not replace Metroliner service fully until 2006 due to the Acela trainsets being taken out of service. There are two issues with this, as I see it:

• What was the service run when the Acela trainsets were removed from service called? Was it called Acela Express but with different rolling stock?
• This replacement was temporary and the Acela service and trainsets fully replaced Metroliner service until for years. The lede, as written, makes it sound like Amtrak ran both services or trainsets until 2006.--Overturn 91 (talk) 20:23, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Metroliner was Amtrak's premium service on the Northeast Corridor. After the retirement of the Budd Metroliners it was handled by EMD AEM-7s hauling specially-refurbished Amfleets. The Acela Express was meant to replace this service, but full rollout of the Acelas was delayed by technical issues. Amtrak ran both Acela Express and Metroliner service until 2006. See e.g. [1] from 2004. Mackensen (talk) 23:04, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Interesting. I've never seen that documentation before (Thanks!) and nothing I've ever read made it clear that Acela and Metroliner co-existed. Thanks for response! --Overturn 91 (talk) 01:40, 14 April 2017 (UTC)