Talk:Mexico and weapons of mass destruction

CONE

Exactly what is "CONE"? It linked to the disambiguation page at AEM, but that's obviously wrong. The space agency is at Agencia Espacial Mexicana. This still doesn't tell anyone what CONE is. Is what is meant, the "Comisión Nacional del Espacio Exterior" (CONEE) ? 65.95.13.213 (talk) 05:50, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: Not moved Consensus is against the move at this time. Alpha Quadrant ^talk 17:36, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

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Mexico and weapons of mass destruction → Mexico and nuclear weapons — This article only covers nuclear weapons, it does not cover other weapons of mass destruction, such as chemical or biological weapons. A more specific title would be better 65.95.13.213 (talk) 05:54, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

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• Oppose - there is a convention amongst articles on this topic to use (state) and weapons of mass destruction - Shatter Resistance (talk) 07:46, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
• Oppose - As per Shatter Resistance, this article name is a conventional form used by all of the other articles about countries and their current or past nuclear programs. AlexCovarrubias ^{( Talk? )} 16:00, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

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To change the name of this article would create a whole new precedent for renaming a whole series of articles on weapons of mass destruction. It would make more sense for IP to go out and find out about any programs that Mexico may have had in other mass destruction areas and add to the article. Shatter Resistance (talk) 07:46, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Do you think that a redirect should exist from my proposed title, then? 65.95.13.213 (talk) 07:44, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

No, it just complicates the issue. Shatter Resistance (talk) 08:17, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Rather more important is to actually find some reliable source references that actually refer to a Mexican nuclear programme and back up what this article says - ref 2 and 5 are used to claim that Mexico had sucessfully produced weapons grade Uranium in 1974 - both cites link to the front page of ININ, which appears to say no such thing. Ref 10, from the IAEA is used to suggest that Mexican military may still have nuclear weapons and that the Mexican Army maintains oversight over a reasearch reactor - again it says no such thing. I haven't checked the Youtube videos which are being used to support the claim that Mexican space research rockets were to be used to launch nuclear warheads - however the summary for the viseos indicates that it is a news piece about the Mexican space programme and does not mention nuclear weapons. As the whole of this article is well into Wikipedia:REDFLAG territory, very strong sources are required to support the key claims, and as far as I can tell, it does not have such sources.Nigel Ish (talk) 22:29, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

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Seriously, what is this?

In the present form, this article is nothing but a pile of unsupported statements and some random sources that do not back the arguments at all (like the videos!).
There is at least one of such claims in each line... but my favourite was is the closing one that "the Mexican Army still maintains oversight of the nuclear activities, so it can still build nuclear weapons!!!" The source for this: an article wrote in 1986. WOOOOOOW!

Would be wonderful if the author could *actually* provide some evidence. Yet I suspect it is wheter a conspirationist, or just a kid. My condolences to those that actually used this in their homeworks.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ajusco (talk • contribs) 15:50, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Agreed that as it stands, this article's principal claims are completely unsourced, and as I said in the move discussion last year, the claims are sich that they require extremly good sourcing - otherwise this article should probably be deleted.Nigel Ish (talk) 17:25, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

I agree Nick-D (talk) 08:30, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

"Mexico is one of the few countries which has technical capabilities to manufacture nuclear weapons.[1]" The citation does not support the claim. Lewis Goudy (talk) 00:54, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

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