Talk:Mi Reflejo

Dominguez reference unreliable

Substantial information was removed from the Background section of this article because it was attached solely to an unreliable, self-published reference. My reasoning for this deletion follows in the next two paragraphs. This information should not be restored until reliable references for this information are found.

The deleted information provided in this article cited Christina Aguilera: A Star Is Made: The Unauthorized Biography by Pier Dominguez as a reference. While Dominguez appears now to be a doctoral student pursuing serious academic work, I am concerned about the reliability of this particular source (which was published when the author was 19 years old, before the bulk of his academic career had begun). For one thing, parts of its contents read like a fan publication (consider, for example, the following: "The fact that [Madonna] approached Christina instead of Britney for a contribution to her [The Next Best Thing] soundtrack says something about whom she really respects."). Works such as these are generally not considered reliable unless the specific cited material was itself from another reliable publication, such as a newspaper. A close examination of the bibliography to this work reveals that, while some sources cited are indeed reliable, a number of them are gossip media, Internet chatrooms, other unauthorized biographies (such as this particularly confidence-inspiring one) and the like. A newspaper review points out some of the work's factual inaccuracies and inconsistencies. Perhaps most concerning is that personal emails from Shelly Kearns, Aguilera's mother, are frequently cited as sources. However, The New York Times points out that Kearns dismissed the work; if this page, published earlier the same year, was NYT's source, then, even more troublingly, it appears the author did not even attempt to contact Kearns, despite repeatedly citing correspondence with her ("No, I've never heard of these people ... A true journalist who supposedly 'researched' something so well, you'd assume, would have tried to contact us at least once to ask questions..."). Additionally, it is perhaps worth noting that his only previous publication at this point had been released by Writer's Club Press, an author mill with no editorial oversight. This work is published by Colossus Books, which is owned by Amber Communications Group, Inc., which also allows authors to self-publish work for a fee via its Quality Press imprint ("a special service-book packaging imprint for authors who wanted to self-publish their books instead of waiting to gain an interest from mainstream publishers").

In light of these troubling facts and Wikipedia's policy on unreliable biographical information about living people ("Contentious material about living persons ... should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion. ... The burden of evidence for any edit on Wikipedia rests with the person who adds or restores material."), particularly the policy on self-published material ("Never use self-published sources ... unless written or published by the subject"), I have made the appropriate deletion of questionable content. 98.155.5.150 (talk) 01:55, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

New Spanish Album

It reads that she has a new Rock/ Pop Spanish album coming soon. Where are the sources? Is this true? --Speakslowly 04:09, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

¿Mi Reflejo or Mi reflejo?

I'm sure the name must be "Mi reflejo". --Coraje 02:31, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Rioplatense accent

Unless a reliable source can be found I recommend that this sentence be changed to something like "a Southern Cone accent" as Rioplatense is far too specific if a "hint" is all we have for confirmation. Angryafghan 17:03, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Bot report : Found duplicate references !

In the last revision I edited, I found duplicate named references, i.e. references sharing the same name, but not having the same content. Please check them, as I am not able to fix them automatically :)

• "trip" :
  • {{cite web | author=Barry A. Jeckell| title=Aguilera's Extends Chart Triple Crown | publisher=Billboard| year=October 12, 2000| url=http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/search/google/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=876134 | accessdate=2008-08-01}}
  • {{cite web | author=Barry A. Jeckell| title='NOW! 7' Is Now Double-Platinum | publisher=Billboard| year=September 10, 2001| url=http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/search/google/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1054612| accessdate=2008-08-01}}
• "idol" :
  • {{cite web | author=Roger Colleti| title=Christina Aguilera To Record With Her Idol | publisher=MTV News| year=April 18, 2000| url=http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1424808/20000418/aguilera_christina.jhtml | accessdate=2008-08-01}}
  • {{cite web | author=Elon Johnson| title=Aguilera's Sore Throat Cancels Trip | publisher=MTV News| year=May 10, 2000| url=http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1424803/20000510/aguilera_christina.jhtml | accessdate=2008-08-01}}

DumZiBoT (talk) 05:20, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Mi Reflejo Sales

According to interview of "Para Todos" Magazine from Spain, Mi Reflejo sold 5 millions of copies

LINK: http://paratodos.com/pt/christina-aguilera-abrilmayo-2011/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.252.10.117 (talk) 06:44, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

2x Platinum Mexico

Mi Reflejo 2x Platinum México http://www.terra.com/musica/fotos/christina_aguilera_del_dirty_al_glamour/58447 --196.40.10.134 (talk) 06:32, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

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Erick (talk) 07:57, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Blockbuster Award?

So apparently Aguilera won an award at the 2001 Blockbuster Awards (which I never knew existed), for Favorite Artist, Latino: Christina Aguilera, Mi Reflejo. I don't know if it's really worth putting in or not since it's an award show from a former rental store, but I'm just throwing this out there. Erick (talk) 05:41, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Spanish charts

The album Mi reflejo,was certified Platinum in Spain,for more than 100,000 sold. also the album peaked number twelve on the charts and stayed there for twenty-four weeks. All this information are on the book Sólo éxitos. Año a año. 1959-2002. --88marcus (talk) 18:06, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up and for adding the information. I didn't see Mi Reflejo when I was browsing through the Hits of World by Billboard. Erick (talk) 20:29, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: Calvin999 (talk · contribs) 10:59, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Lead

• The tracks adapted and composed → The tracks were adapted and composed

 Done

• on top of both charts. → at the top of both charts

 Done

• platinum in country. → platinum in that country

 Done

• It also peaked at number fifty-four in Switzerland and certified double platinum in Mexico. → I don't think this is needed tbh, plus it's a bit odd to say it peaked at 54 in Switzerland and certified double platinum in Mexico in that construction.

 Done

• Need a comma after Nielsen SoundScan

 Done

Background

• After the huge success → By including 'huge' here, it sounds a bit WP:FANCRUFT and fan like. 'After the success' has the same impact without reading like a forum

 Done

• found themselves pushing → Well, I doubt it's something they didn't want! Simply 'pushed' would do fine.

 Done

• These opening sentences aren't making sense. I have changed it, because it just isn't flowing and it's easier for me to do this myself than explain each bit

 Done

• markets also, the grow in the → markets also. The growth in the

 Done

• something in which → something which

 Done

Composition

• The former single peaked at number thirteen on the Billboard Hot Latin Songs chart while the latter single peaked at number six on the Hot Latin Songs and number two on the Billboard Latin Pop Songs chart. → This isn't composition and should be removed, it should go in the Singles section. (I haven't got that bit yet, so you might be repeating yourself).

Since they're weren't released as singles for this album, it wouldn't be appropriate for to the singles section.

They were previously released as single though. Composition is the complete wrong section. Chart positions have nothing to do with composition.  — AARON • ^TALK 09:30, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

• and including a system → and included a system

 Done

Commercial performance

• chart succeeded → chart and replaced (I think this is what you mean)

 Done

Track listing

• What's the point of the Music column?

 No idea. It was there before I revamped this article. Removed.

Charts

I made some amendments and MOS changes.

Thanks! :)

References

• Look great :)

Again, thanks! :)

Status

On hold.  — AARON • ^TALK 21:19, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

 Doing... Thanks for the review! Sorry about the delay, college has been keeping me busy. Erick (talk) 06:54, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

I believe I've addressed every issue brought up. EDIT: What the heck? My edit didn't save. =\ Give me one minute. EDIT2: Okay, I've got it this time. Erick (talk) 03:48, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Okay. Passing.  — AARON • ^TALK 09:30, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

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Not a studio album

Simple as that. From RCA (her label)Lotus is the fifth. http://www.rcarecords.com/news/global-superstar-christina-aguilera-release-new-album-lotus-november-13th — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.37.233.75 (talk) 21:17, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

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Nicely improved. At this point, to reach the more rigorous B class, attention should probably be put into improving flow. Ideally, sections should consist of at least one full paragraph each. As it stands at the moment, the background section has one stand-alone sentence as a paragraph followed by another paragraph consisting of two more. If these cannot be expanded, it might be a good idea to merge them into the subsequent section to allow more complete discussion. For example, the first sentence of the "background" section discusses the concept of a Spanish language album. The first three sentences also talk about the Spanish language. It would be pretty easy to combine these into one paragraph under "background". Nicely sourced! Article requirements: Y Start: reasonably complete infobox; lead section with overview of album; track listing; reference to at least primary personnel by name; Categorization by at least artist and year. Y C: all of start and (1) cover art in infobox; (2) at least one additional section of prose; (3) track lengths & song authors in tracklist; (4) a personnel section including all musicians. B: all of C and (1) most technical details in infobox; (2) technical personnel in personnel section; (3) no obvious issues with sourcing; (4) no obvious issues with readability, though it may not conform completely to style guidelines; (5) no glaring omissions of information (see some suggestions at WP:ALBUM) or extraneous information, like trivia. Higher Classes are not assigned by WikiProject Album. Please review "the perfect article" and, if already B class, consider seeking additional feedback from Wikipedia:Good articles or Wikipedia:Featured articles. Please see Wikipedia:WikiProject_Albums/Assessment for additional information on article class. To request a reassessment from the Album project, when concerns are addressed, please see "requesting an assessment". --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:02, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

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RIAA's site says Mi Reflejo sold 6 million

I checked RIAA website a few days ago and it said mi reflejo is certified 6x platinum and it sold 6 million units in the USA as of 2001. It didn't mention anything about the Latin category it's certified 6x platinum in the general field someone please update 33sam33 (talk) 04:43, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing it out. I believe there is something odd with this certification, and I think it is erroneous. One needs to use common sense, six million is an impossible sales number, considering everything. The Nielsen SoundScan is much more reasonable. I am asking for more opinions on this since this is a GA and many editors have verified it in the past. --Muhandes (talk) 09:16, 16 January 2020 (UTC) Pinging @Magiciandude:. --Muhandes (talk) 09:24, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

It's definitely a Latin certification. When you use "Advance Search", select "Latin" under type and it shows "Mi Reflejo" as a Latin certification. It should be noted though, that the certified units on the website is based on the current threshold, not the threshold at the time of its certification. Meaning that the website states 360,000, but was certified 600,000 units at the time. This is also backed up by a published article by Billboard listing the monthly RIAA certifications. Source. Erick (talk) 16:38, 16 January 2020 (UTC)