Talk:Michael Costigan (film producer)

Requested move

Michael Costigan (film producer) → Michael Costigan – Michael Costigan is a notable film producer who has produced numerous mainstream films. The article Michael Costigan (entrepreneur) was originally at Michael Costigan before I moved it. I created a dab page for both the film producer and the entrepreneur, then I proposed that the entrepreneur's article be deleted due to lack of notability. It was deleted, so I moved the film producer article from Michael Costigan (film producer) to Michael Costigan. Now SeasideArt has recreated the entrepreneur's article at Michael Costigan (youth speaker) and moved the film producer's article back to Michael Costigan (film producer). I do not believe that the youth speaker is notable by Wikipedia's standards, and even if it passes by a slim margin, the person is not on equal grounds with the film producer. Erik (talk | contribs) 18:37, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

• Comment - I'm not really convinced that the film producer qualifies as primary; a look in Google Books revealed more hits for the Australian Roman Catholic/Australian Council Michael Costigan (writer), for which I have created a stub. Compare "Michael Costigan" +film = 131 GBhits with "michael costigan" + australia = 609 GBhits. Which means that the hndab would need moving if this RM goes ahead, except, not convinced the "youth speaker" (which presumably is improved now?) would survive a second AfD, in which case the hndab could be reduced to a hatnote. In ictu oculi (talk) 05:50, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

  Nice addition! I'll withdraw my request to move, on the basis of the writer at least. Erik (talk | contribs) 12:06, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

  There are a number of other pages for similar figures to the (youth speaker), eg. if you search motivational speakers you will turn up a slew of results, some with varying degrees of popularity, most not household names. My point in providing this article is to keep on par with the standards set previously, for example here, Josh Shipp SeasideArt (talk | contribs) 09:23, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

  SeasideArt, we have to follow the notability guidelines at WP:BIO to warrant articles on such figures. "Additional criteria" would not apply to the speakers we've mentioned so far, so they have to satisfy the "Basic criteria" as seen on that page. That criteria is a bit stricter, and these two speaker articles may not meet Wikipedia's standards. Erik (talk | contribs) 16:37, 13 June 2013 (UTC)