Talk:Michael Genesereth

the draft page is not the place for a conversation

To editor Denny: If you think this is notable, go ahead and move it into mainspace. If your goal was to argue, let me set you straight: NACADEMIC says "The person has been an elected member of a highly selective and prestigious scholarly society or association (e.g., a National Academy of Sciences or the Royal Society) or a fellow of a major scholarly society which reserves fellow status as a highly selective honor (e.g., Fellow of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers)." I took a look at the article about AAAI and was not impressed. Just because a society exists does not, to my mind, qualify it as "highly selective and prestigious". Just because many of the members seem to be blue links assumes that those people are actually notable and not further errors in judgement. I also shouldn't have to explain to you that most people will never be notable and if ever they become, the sort of journalism and scholarship that would qualify as general notability will not come until after that person dies. I keep getting questions about this which forces me to wonder if you've never given this any thought or you, like others, just assume the worst about me. I knew Adrianne Wadewitz. I still !voted to delete the article about her. Chris Troutman (talk) 01:59, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

@Chris troutman: Thank you for starting the discussion here, and sorry for breaking the etiquette about discussions. As you point out, NACADEMIC states "The person has been an elected member of a highly selective and prestigious scholarly society or association (e.g., a National Academy of Sciences or the Royal Society) or a fellow of a major scholarly society which reserves fellow status as a highly selective honor (e.g., Fellow of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers).". So I am looking at the second part after the or, which requires a fellow of a society has to be "major and scholarly" (which the AAAI is, it is the major society in the field of AI, and it is certainly scholarly) and where it reserves the fellowship as a highly selective honor (which it is, only 5-10 members per year get selected). Furthermore, if we look at the list of other AAAI fellows, we will find that almost all of them have an article.

I would move it to the main namespace, but since I am not a regular in the Draft namespace (as you can see by my clumsy discussion on the draft page) and not familiar with the process, I was hoping that someone else would. If all there is to it to have it moved, I am happy to move on (forgive the pun).

I certainly do not assume the worst about you, but was pointing out that the formulation was perceived as rather unfriendly. In fact, I do assume good faith. --denny vrandečić (talk) 02:18, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

@Denny: I'd say just go ahead and move it yourself but, in light of your concerns, I asked the question at WT:AFC. Chris Troutman (talk) 12:32, 15 July 2020 (UTC)