Talk:Michael Milken/Archives/2014

Latest comment: 9 years ago by RegentsPark in topic Guilty plea or Alford plea


Suggested Update

My name is Larry Weisenberg, and I am a representative for Michael Milken. Recognizing that bias, I would like to suggest the following update to the last paragraph of the Philanthropic Activities section, specifically related to the Celebration of Science. Here is my suggestion:

In September 2012, Milken and the director of the National Institutes of Health, Dr. Francis Collins, jointly hosted 1,000 senior medical scientists and members of Congress at a three-day Celebration of Science (COS) conference[34] to demonstrate the return on investment in medical research. The COS initiative expanded its focus on the importance of public health in January 2014 when Milken joined with Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Tom Frieden and more than 200 scientists, researchers, business leaders and Congressmen at the Atlanta Summit on Public Health and Prosperity at the CDC's headquarters[35].

The source for the additive sentence is http://milkeninstitute.org/atlantasummit/. Thank you. LarryWeisenberg (talk) 18:10, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

That's just a press release.
Recent news about him: CNBC is considering him for one of the top 25 people who changed the world in the last 25 years. "CNBC is remembering the most impactful leaders of the past 25 years - and we can't do that without acknowledging the scandalous leaders who changed the world like Milken and Madoff." [1] John Nagle (talk) 21:04, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Guilty plea or Alford plea

My name is Larry Weisenberg, and I am a representative for Michael Milken. A recent change on May 27 changed the Drexel plea from "nolo contendre" to an "Alford plea." Neither is correct; simply put, Drexel pleaded guilty. I suggest changing "entered an Alford plea" to "pleaded guilty". Thank you. LarryWeisenberg (talk) 00:05, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

I've switched it back to a guilty plea. However, that doesn't mean it wasn't an Alfort plea and, if someone can verify that that's what the sources say, then it would be ok to restate it as an Alford plea. --regentspark (comment) 02:53, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
Actually, Drexel merely stated that it was "not in a position to dispute the allegations," according to "April Fools." That sounds like an Alford plea, since an Alford plea is entered when a defendant maintains his innocence, but admits that the prosecution has enough evidence to win a conviction. Changed the wording accordingly...hopefully this works. HangingCurveSwing for the fence 17:32, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Meh... "Not in a position to dispute" is not an Alford plea. "We didn't do it but we're pleading guilty anyway" is an Alford plea. "Not in a position to dispute" is a guilty plea. Djcheburashka (talk) 09:27, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Good call. Reading Alford plea, this doesn't sound like that at all. Anyway, the only way we should include a specific type of plea only if reliable sources use the same words. --regentspark (comment) 01:44, 16 November 2014 (UTC)