Talk:Microsoft Store/Archive 1

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Archive 1

Apps

I'm deleting the whole Apps section because it doesn't make sense to me to have one, certainly not in its existing form, in which half of the section consists of a list of dozens of apps that are rumored (without citation) will soon be available from the Windows Store. There will soon be many thousands of apps available from the Windows Store. Having a list of them would be like having a Products section of the Walmart article, that lists each of the products that Walmart sells. That's not a road this article should be heading down. Red Act (talk) 12:49, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

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Number of Apps

A better estimation of the number of apps is at Metroscanner (http://metrostorescanner.com/#/). They currently list 150,572 apps for Windows 8 Metro. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:558:6043:F:C12D:3C7E:71C7:6C79 (talk) 03:02, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

What's in a name

You may be interested to know that Microsoft simply calls "Windows apps" their universal applications running on the Windows Runtime [1]. Diego (talk) 07:01, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi.

ViperSnake151 and Jeh, you two might want to see this discussion.

According to [2] Windows Runtime is becoming available to desktop applications. It appears we no longer can redirect Metro-style app and Windows Store app to Windows Runtime. It would be technically incorrect.

I just wish it was a typo. But Microsoft seems persistent to do things the "one platform to rule them all way", so I guess the chances are slim.

Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 17:36, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

P.S. Long ago, I wrote User:Codename Lisa/Metro-style apps draft. Do you guys think we can make it a full article? If yes, I think need a hand finding sources again. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 17:38, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi again. It seems we already have APPX and Windows universal app platform. Wow! I must really come out of my shell and don't be shy about posting a draft with some sources missing. Otherwise, some people would create stubs with far less quality. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 17:49, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
By how MS has described them, Windows universal apps are effectively an extension of the Metro-style apps concept. ViperSnake151  Talk  18:47, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Merge with Windows Phone Store

The following is a closed discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was This summer, Microsoft is merging the Windows Store, Windows Phone Store and XBOX Store. As such, these articles should be merged.

Daylen (talk) 19:59, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Oppose: We do not conform to Microsoft's branding or structure just to nuke historical information. ViperSnake151  Talk  23:53, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
Oppose Regardless if Microsoft will actually merge the actual Windows Phone Store into the Microsoft Windows Store, the Windows Phone Store as a historical entity still remains to be separate and though Windows Phone 7.x/8.x applications will eventually be listed in the Windows Store the Windows Phone Store still has 5 years of independent history (and I've seen articles about software and software distribution platforms that have lasted way shorter than that). The Windows Phone Store is also the mobile software applications distribution platform of Windows Phone which is a different operating system and runs different code from Windows 10 Mobile, and though they may be merged into 1 in the "real world", the articles describing both are and should remain different, it's like suggesting us to merge the articles for Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1 into Windows 10 because it's a newer version, historical software that was once notable is always notable. --1.55.1.190 (talk) 08:30, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

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What is an APP

What is an "app"? Since about 2010 the term has become very common, in the context of smartphones, and was fairly easy to understand: modular computer application software that interacts with users, obtained and managed via the "store" associated with that smartphone, with typically simple/limited/narrow functionality.

However, now that Microsoft Windows (8 and 10) have evolved to include very similar "apps" on desktop computers, the usage and meaning of the term is becoming very ambiguous and confused. This seems like an intentional marketing scheme. There is a big difference in Windows 10 between traditional desktop application programs and the new app-store managed tile "apps". But in the Win10 context MS is using the term "app" to include all application software of any kind, making it very hard for any of us to talk easily about the significant differences -- which makes it hard for users to think about and be aware of the differences... which seems to be the point as MS tries to migrate all users away from traditional local-install desktop software towards their curated app-store ecosystem.

  • www.adventmediainc.com/Articles/so-what-is-an-app
An “application” or “app” is simply a program that does something. There are basically four types of apps, “OS apps” “desktop apps,” “Web apps” and “Mobile apps.” We'll discuss Mobile Websites too.
(great tech introduction)
  • bogost.com/blog/what_is_an_app/
  • www.worldstart.com/windows-10-what-is-an-app/
"There are two kinds of apps. Apps and Desktop Apps. Desktop Apps are programs that only run on a PC with full Windows 10 that has enough computing power to support them..."

It will be very challenging but vital for relevant WP articles to be as clear and helpful as possible about addressing "What is an APP?"-71.174.176.65 (talk) 14:57, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

Completeness and Neutral POV

Ok WTF this article is essentially of stub quality, when the subject matter is an application store that is a strong competitor to the Apple App Store and the Android Play Store. Both of these stores have much more detailed articles, suggesting extreme editorial bias. This is seriously hindering the progression of the Windows Store. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:6000:1300:E039:250:8DFF:FEB3:943E (talk) 05:11, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

Archive 1