Talk:Mid-Atlantic American English
Latest comment: 7 years ago by LakeKayak in topic Who comes up with this stuff...
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Who comes up with this stuff...
editDo people actually go into cities and study or do they just assume that all surrounding states speak the same??? Cot (ky-t/kah-t) does not rhyme with caught (caw-ght or court depending on area) in Baltimore so I don't know why we are linked in with that...Chic3z (talk) 16:19, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
- @Chic3z: Labov et al actually did go into cities and study how people spoke.LakeKayak (talk) 16:54, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
- Well, obviously skipped right over Baltimore or studied suburbs or tourists only. I've never heard one person talk like that, especially Black folk (and it's a majority Black city).Chic3z (talk) 15:19, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
- @Chic3z: I'll look into this.LakeKayak (talk) 15:32, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
- Isn't AAVE typically resistant to the cot-caught merger? That'd explain it. Mr KEBAB (talk) 02:45, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
- It's resisted in the Mid-Atlantic dialect as well. Therefore, with Chic3z's claim, that Baltimore is not cot–caught merged, I fail to see the argument. If the two vowel are not merged in Baltimore, then Labov et al are correct in their assessment of Baltimore.LakeKayak (talk) 16:51, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
- Unless someone edited the cot-caught section, it looks like I made a comment on the wrong page 3 years ago...this article says cot-caught doesn't merge in this region so my original comment is irrelevant.Chic3z (talk) 13:11, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
- It's resisted in the Mid-Atlantic dialect as well. Therefore, with Chic3z's claim, that Baltimore is not cot–caught merged, I fail to see the argument. If the two vowel are not merged in Baltimore, then Labov et al are correct in their assessment of Baltimore.LakeKayak (talk) 16:51, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
- @Chic3z: It turns out that Labov et al may have actually analyzed speakers by telephone calls. I made a slight error there but no big deal.LakeKayak (talk) 19:18, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
- Well, obviously skipped right over Baltimore or studied suburbs or tourists only. I've never heard one person talk like that, especially Black folk (and it's a majority Black city).Chic3z (talk) 15:19, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
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editI am hesitant to use this claim. For one, such could also be said on the page New Jersey English. And for another, this source is one of the most recognized linguistic sources for American English. If anyone wishes to state their opinion, be my guest.LakeKayak (talk) 16:27, 27 February 2017 (UTC)