Talk:Mid back rounded vowel

o ←→ o̞

In the examples, is the use of [o], rather than [o̞], intentional? Isn't one of the aims of this article to point out the distinction between the two? Using the same symbol for both is, in my opinion, counter-productive to that end. Dan ☺ 15:59, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, that makes sense. — Ƶ§œš¹ _{[aɪm ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɛ̃ɾ̃ˡi]} 00:06, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

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The amount of rounding

Is there any research on whether [o̞] typically has more rounding than the cardinal [ɔ]? When I listen to Greek, Japanese or Spanish, their /o/ seems to differ from my Polish /ɔ/ by the amount of rounding it has ([o̞] is more rounded), rather than the exact tongue position which is only slightly higher. I know that Polish /ɔ/ is only weakly rounded, but so is cardinal [ɔ] (it's only slightly more rounded). It'd be fascinating to see a similar study regarding [ø̞] vs. [œ]. Kbb2 (ex. Mr KEBAB) (talk) 16:49, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

ô

@Kbb2: which Serbo-Croatian dictionary uses namely U+00F4 for it? Moreover, may a serious source use U+00F4 ô LATIN SMALL LETTER O WITH CIRCUMFLEX in a Cyrillic text? Please, don’t defend random Wikipedian trash. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 12:08, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

@Incnis Mrsi: HJP and Rečnik srpskohrvatskoga književnog jezika just to name two. The latter is written in entirely (or almost entirely) in Cyrillic. Also, check Wiktionary. Kbb2 (ex. Mr KEBAB) (talk) 12:16, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

@Kbb2: where is specifically U+00F4 which you defend against me? Don’t evade the question. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 12:20, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

@Incnis Mrsi: Obvious typo is obvious, so let's not split hairs. The error has been fixed. Kbb2 (ex. Mr KEBAB) (talk) 12:24, 10 August 2019 (UTC)