Talk:Midnight Madness (basketball)/GA1

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Review by Dabomb87 (talk · contribs) A very interesting article, it is quite good but needs some tweaks for it can attain GA status. Note that I may be a bit (lot) more picky than the GA criteria mandates, so bear with me here and know that it will make your job easier later...

• "Midnight Madness is an annual event on college campuses, which celebrates the first day in "-->Midnight Madness is an annual event on college campuses that celebrates the first day...
  • O.K.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 04:16, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
• "12:00 A.M."-->12:00 a.m.
  • O.K.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 04:16, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
• "practice session events" Is a practice session not an event?
  • The intent of the wording was that these are practice sessions that command an audience. I am not sure what you would like to see, but I think removing the word event without doing something else may cause the point to be lost.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 04:19, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
    • OK, I see what you are saying. Can we combine the two sentences with this phrase though? Dabomb87 (talk) 04:38, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
      • How so?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 04:44, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
        • "Some other campuses have sunrise practice session events on the opening day of the season. Many others have prime time practice session events."-->Some other campuses have sunrise practice session events on the opening day of the season, while many others have prime time practice session events.
• "success of the prior years" "prior"-->previous. Dabomb87 (talk) 04:47, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Also added apostrophe to years--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 04:25, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
• "At some schools both the men's and women's teams celebrate the beginning of the regular season." Comma after "schools".
  • O.K.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 04:25, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
• "In 2008, there was controversy as some schools applied to host public practice sessions in association with the "Offseason Workout Rule" before regular practice sessions were to be permitted."-->In 2008, there was controversy over some schools' application to host public practice sessions in association with the "Offseason Workout Rule" before regular practice sessions were to be permitted.
  • I added an s and changed another to an apostrophe.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 04:25, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
• "According to legend, Lefty Driesell," Commas not needed.
  • The first comma is needed to set off the According to legend and the second is needed to start the parenthetical thought.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 04:35, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
    • My mistake, I read the sentence too fast. Dabomb87 (talk) 04:38, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
• "began officially promoting"-->began to officially promote.
  • O.K.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 04:43, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
• "with formal entertainment acts, and an invited audience of students."-->with formal entertainment acts and an invited student audience.
  • O.K.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 04:43, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
• ". Another of the more famous events is "Late Night in the Phog" at Kansas" Comma after this phrase.
  • O.K.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 04:43, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
• "The event has caught on on most campuses with various programs giving away T-shirts, letting players do stunt dunks and half court shots."-->The event has caught on on most campuses; various programs have given away T-shirts and allowed players do stunt dunks and half court shots.
  • O.K.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 04:43, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
• "The event is often a co-ed event with both the men's and women's team participating in the celebration, "-->The event is often a co-ed event, in which both the men's and women's team participate in the celebration,
  • O.K.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 04:43, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
• "where both the men's and women's teams have strong winning traditions." Instead of writing POV-sounding phrases such as "strong winning traditions", let the numbers speak (a combined seven championships).
  • O.K.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 04:43, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
• "on the weekend"-->during the weekend
  • O.K.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 04:43, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
• "In recent years, most basketball programs from large Division I " "in recent years" is vague.
  • How is it now?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 04:46, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
    • Sounds a bit broad, but still much better. I am logging off for the night, so I will not be able to make clarifications or answer questions. I will return first thing tomorrow (assuming that you live in a U.S. time zone). Regards, Dabomb87 (talk) 04:58, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
      • Sleep tight. (P.S. Yes I live in Chicago and am celebrating the holidays with my mother and sister in Minneapolis).--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 05:06, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
• "Often celebrity guest and alumni get involved in entertaining the current students. Often there is significant publicity surrounding the event." Elaborate on the "publicity", and fix the sentences so that we don't have the same sentence starts two consecutive times.
  • HOw is that?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 04:56, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
    • Better, although the grammar needs tweaking. I will get on that tomorrow. Dabomb87 (talk) 04:59, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
• "Some of the more legendary events to have occurred during such events include coach participation such as Michigan State Spartans men's basketball coach Tom Izzo riding a Harley-Davidson motorcycle onto the court and Florida Gators men's basketball coach Billy Donovan rising out of a coffin." A rather long sentence, put some commas in there to give readers a break.
  • I added the only one I think is necessary.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 05:04, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
• "Kentucky has sold out Rupp Arena more than once multiple times for their brand of Midnight madness that what they call "Big Blue Madness"
  • O.K.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 05:10, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
• "2008-09 Kentucky Wildcats men's basketball team " En dash in year range. Surely you mean "season" instead of "team"?
  • Correct.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 05:10, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
• "One celebratory functions" Singular, not plural.
  • Yes--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 05:10, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
• "In 2008, both 2008 NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Tournament finalists, the Kansas Jayhawks men's basketball and Memphis Tigers men's basketball teams, did so during their respective March Madness event.[13][14]" I don't understand what this has to do with Midnight Madness though.
  • March-->Midnight.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 05:10, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
• "proclaimed Midnight Madness date" Sounds like a declaration of some sort.
  • Reevaluate now.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 05:19, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
• "September 15 and October 17th" No ordinals in dates.
  • O.K.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 05:19, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
• "About.com reports that the practice session events occurred both at halftime and after the game.[18]" About.com is generally not considered a reliable source.
  • In this case, About.com is the source with the best photos of the event.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 05:19, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
    • You might say "Charlie Zegers reports" instead. Dabomb87 (talk) 15:22, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
      • O.K.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 17:06, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
• "The National Association of Basketball Coaches asked the Southeastern Conference to force Kentucky to adhere to the traditionally scheduled practice to no avail.[12] They then belatedly petitioned the NCAA to legislate conformity to no avail." Repetitive sentence endings.
  • O.K.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 05:19, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

I have placed the article on hold for now. Dabomb87 (talk) 02:13, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Your changes look good, and I have made some of my own copy-edits. The article pretty much meets criteria now, so I will pass after you resolved the About.com issue, to which I replied above. Dabomb87 (talk) 15:22, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

All good now.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 17:06, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

OK, passing. Dabomb87 (talk) 17:46, 31 December 2008 (UTC)