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Does this person really fit the notability guidelines? I don't feel that he does. TEH (talk • contributions) 20:03, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
- I agree. It should probably go to AfD. Bueller 007 (talk) 05:46, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
- Please explain to me, and others, why he is not notable enough? He edits almost every single video that CineMassacre produces, stars in many of the videos, makes many video reviews himself, has been in a Nintendo Wii-U game as a playable character, is in many ways the executive producer of CineMassacre Productions itself and much more. I do not see how he is not notable enough. I hope this isn't just one of those people who think he's "hoggin" James Rolfe's YouTube channel. (and yes, there are actually people who use this to criticize him) I mean, he has been there pretty much from the very beginning. He even plays an actual character in a recurring web series made by CineMassacre titled "Board James", his character being "Motherfucker Mike." He is on IMDb, and as opposed to Rolfe he even has a picture on there. So may I ask, what reasoning are you using for this allegation that he is not notable enough? EDIT: Sorry, I forgot to login when I orginally posted this message. Now it's been signed properly. --Luka1184 (talk) 11:39, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
- Because he almost certainly fails WP:CREATIVE and WP:ENTERTAINER (except perhaps clause 2, although it's undeniable that the "following" is really James Rolfe's and not his own). And based on the references provided in the article, it's certainly not clear that he satisfies the general notability criteria. His page should just be a redirect to Cinemassacre Productions. Bueller 007 (talk) 13:56, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, but can you please clarify what you mean by "although it's undeniable that the "following" is really James Rolfe's and not his own." ?? What is Rolfe's?? What are you referring to? Are you saying that Mike has no "real" involvement in the episodes of J&MM and the other CineMassacre-produced shows? Look, just because Patrick Stewart starred in Star Trek: The Next Generation it doesn't mean that Marina Sirtis shouldn't have her own page. --Luka1184 (talk) 18:51, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
- I mean exactly what I said; it's not a difficult sentence to parse. Bueller 007 (talk) 19:15, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, but can you please clarify what you mean by "although it's undeniable that the "following" is really James Rolfe's and not his own." ?? What is Rolfe's?? What are you referring to? Are you saying that Mike has no "real" involvement in the episodes of J&MM and the other CineMassacre-produced shows? Look, just because Patrick Stewart starred in Star Trek: The Next Generation it doesn't mean that Marina Sirtis shouldn't have her own page. --Luka1184 (talk) 18:51, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
- Because he almost certainly fails WP:CREATIVE and WP:ENTERTAINER (except perhaps clause 2, although it's undeniable that the "following" is really James Rolfe's and not his own). And based on the references provided in the article, it's certainly not clear that he satisfies the general notability criteria. His page should just be a redirect to Cinemassacre Productions. Bueller 007 (talk) 13:56, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
- Please explain to me, and others, why he is not notable enough? He edits almost every single video that CineMassacre produces, stars in many of the videos, makes many video reviews himself, has been in a Nintendo Wii-U game as a playable character, is in many ways the executive producer of CineMassacre Productions itself and much more. I do not see how he is not notable enough. I hope this isn't just one of those people who think he's "hoggin" James Rolfe's YouTube channel. (and yes, there are actually people who use this to criticize him) I mean, he has been there pretty much from the very beginning. He even plays an actual character in a recurring web series made by CineMassacre titled "Board James", his character being "Motherfucker Mike." He is on IMDb, and as opposed to Rolfe he even has a picture on there. So may I ask, what reasoning are you using for this allegation that he is not notable enough? EDIT: Sorry, I forgot to login when I orginally posted this message. Now it's been signed properly. --Luka1184 (talk) 11:39, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
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- So you are saying that he's not notable? Despite having even come up with the ideas for many of the shows I listed, including James & Mike Mondays? Which by definition means that he is not just a co-star but also a co-creator. By the way, I also find it perplexing that J&MM is getting a candidate for deletion for not being "notable enough" when a show like Game Grumps, which is pretty much the same thing and gets as many views as James & Mike Mondays, is allowed to stay. But that is probably something I should say on either J&MM's page or Game Grump's. --Luka1184 (talk) 20:51, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
- That is quite obviously what I'm saying. Bueller 007 (talk) 21:02, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
- Okay, but you have yet to give any reason for this. May I ask, what is your reasoning? --Luka1184 (talk) 13:23, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
- The reason for the deletion is explained above. Extraordinarily clearly, in fact. Bueller 007 (talk) 15:06, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
- Okay, but you have yet to give any reason for this. May I ask, what is your reasoning? --Luka1184 (talk) 13:23, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
- That is quite obviously what I'm saying. Bueller 007 (talk) 21:02, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
- So you are saying that he's not notable? Despite having even come up with the ideas for many of the shows I listed, including James & Mike Mondays? Which by definition means that he is not just a co-star but also a co-creator. By the way, I also find it perplexing that J&MM is getting a candidate for deletion for not being "notable enough" when a show like Game Grumps, which is pretty much the same thing and gets as many views as James & Mike Mondays, is allowed to stay. But that is probably something I should say on either J&MM's page or Game Grump's. --Luka1184 (talk) 20:51, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
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- So you want more references and information from other places than the ones already there? --Luka1184 (talk) 19:00, 9 April 2015 (UTC)