Talk:Mike Winder

Latest comment: 5 years ago by Samee in topic Requested move 28 February 2019

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Why is he the only city councilman in West Valley City, Utah with a Wiki article? This should be considered for removal under the notability requirements.

Also, the article is perhaps biased and sounds like self-promotion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Washingtonianbaby (talkcontribs) 15:23, 22 March 2009 (UTC)Reply

He is one of the two city wide councilmembers and is also a regionally notable author. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Biddenden (talkcontribs) 17:29, 4 April 2009 (UTC)Reply

Are most authors of his book's publisher recognized in wikipedia? the book isn't that famous.

Also, is the other city-wide councilmember on wikipedia? most city council members is LARGER cities in more prominent places than West Valley are not on Wikipedia. I think this article is up for review by administrators. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.95.3.75 (talk) 00:08, 11 April 2009 (UTC)Reply

Conflict of Interest Note

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As some other editor noted, Michael K. Winder has been editing his own page using at a minimum User:Wenjanglau and User:WikiPro24601 to write his own Wikipedia profile, to try to erase negative information, and to remove the conflict of interest warning. The Salt Lake Tribune mentions a User:Biddenden, but I don't see that user.

See: Lee, Davidson (3 March 2017). "Mike Winder accused of manipulating Wikipedia page with multiple accounts in violation of ethics policy". The Salt Lake Tribune. Retrieved 15 March 2017. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.10.71.186 (talkcontribs) 15 March 2017 (UTC)

User:Biddenden addressed the concerns listed in the Notability template by adding some sources before removing the tag, in 2009. (see: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Michael_K._Winder&type=revision&diff=282679615&oldid=281734635) ≈≈Carolfrog≈≈♦тос♦ 21:11, 16 March 2017 (UTC)Reply

Complying with WP:NPOV and WP:BLP

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These edits do not appear to comply with WP:BLP or WP:NPOV. For example, the sub-header "History of Self-Promotion Using Pseudonyms" is not neutral. I replaced it with "Public relations controversies," which I believe gets the point across. Edits should be discussed here first and consensus reached, but please don't blindly revert good-faith edits to this article. Marquardtika (talk) 15:55, 17 March 2017 (UTC)Reply

"History of Self-Promotion Using Pseudonyms" is perfectly neutral. Winder has a history of using pseudonyms to promote himself. he does not deny that history. perfectly neutral and precise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spiculalinguae (talkcontribs) 16:03, 19 March 2017 (UTC)Reply

Wilder's notability is not primarily derived from writings he has published under pseudonyms. The assertion here that "winder's notability as a national figure is entirely dependent on his history of anonymous self-promotion. he otherwise does not meet notability" is patently false. Wilder meets WP:NPOL as a member of a state legislative body. He is primarily notable for being a member of the Utah House. Devoting half of the lede section to a recent newspaper article about him violates WP:UNDUE and WP:RECENTISM, especially since the lede devotes zero coverage to his legislative tenure. Marquardtika (talk) 00:03, 20 March 2017 (UTC)Reply
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Requested move 28 February 2019

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Moved. (non-admin closure)  samee  converse  21:40, 6 March 2019 (UTC)Reply



Michael K. WinderMike Winder – Essentially every single source given states his name as Mike Winder, so this article should be there per WP:COMMONNAME. I would have moved it myself, but there's a redirect with significant history, almost all of it by User:Biddenden, who was involved in a COI issue described in the talk pageRoadguy2 (talk) 02:25, 28 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 06:04, 28 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

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