Talk:Military career of Audie Murphy/Archive 1
Cause of death
editHave added a key piece of information that was missing. i.e.Cause of death. Used the Official Website of Audie Murphy for the source/citation. Hope this is adequate. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 00:32, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
- A self published source? Murphy didn't publish it. How is this "self published"? In any case, the article won't make GA if basic information regarding his life is missing. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 00:45, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
- This article is ONLY about his military career. Not his film career, any of the rest of his life, or his death. Thank you for your interest in this, but the Audie Memorial website is a fan site, paid for and maintained by fans. It's a blog. Please read from Wikipedia:Verifiability:
Anyone can create a personal web page or publish their own book, and also claim to be an expert in a certain field. For that reason, self-published media, such as books, patents, newsletters, personal websites, open wikis, personal or group blogs (as distinguished from newsblogs, above), Internet forum postings, and tweets, are largely not acceptable as sources. Self-published expert sources may be considered reliable when produced by an established expert on the subject matter, whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable third-party publications.[7] Exercise caution when using such sources: if the information in question is really worth reporting, someone else will probably have done so.[9] Never use self-published sources as third-party sources about living people, even if the author is an expert, well-known professional researcher, or writer.
- I know it's easy to get confused about this. But what you copied over, with uncomfortably close paraphrasing, was written by an anonymous fan at the website. There was no verifiability on that. Scanned government documents loaded on the website are in the references here. But that's because those are government records, not a fan blogging their opinion. — Maile (talk) 00:54, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, anyone can publish, but Murphy didn't publish it so it's not "self published", and it's not a blog either, as there are no discussions occurring there. In any case, you are right about one thing, the article is about Murphy's military career, so on that note I suppose we can leave out the cause of his death, even though its mentioned that it occurred in 1971, which had nothing to do with his military career. Seems the readers would want to know why he died at an early age, but if you insist on being so rigid about this one item, so be it. Thought I was helping. Btw, a link to the policy was all that was needed, you didn't need to copy and paste entire paragraphs on to the talk page to make the point, however misplaced. Good luck with the GA review. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 01:18, 27 March 2014 (UTC
- Btw, Great job (99.9%) on the artcile. :-) Keep up the good work. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 01:22, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, anyone can publish, but Murphy didn't publish it so it's not "self published", and it's not a blog either, as there are no discussions occurring there. In any case, you are right about one thing, the article is about Murphy's military career, so on that note I suppose we can leave out the cause of his death, even though its mentioned that it occurred in 1971, which had nothing to do with his military career. Seems the readers would want to know why he died at an early age, but if you insist on being so rigid about this one item, so be it. Thought I was helping. Btw, a link to the policy was all that was needed, you didn't need to copy and paste entire paragraphs on to the talk page to make the point, however misplaced. Good luck with the GA review. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 01:18, 27 March 2014 (UTC
- This article is ONLY about his military career. Not his film career, any of the rest of his life, or his death. Thank you for your interest in this, but the Audie Memorial website is a fan site, paid for and maintained by fans. It's a blog. Please read from Wikipedia:Verifiability:
- A self published source? Murphy didn't publish it. How is this "self published"? In any case, the article won't make GA if basic information regarding his life is missing. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 00:45, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
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DMY format
editPer WT:WikiProject Military history:Military_dates_or_civilian_dates.3F, the U.S. military style DMY format is to be used on this article. Please do not change. — Maile (talk) 12:53, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
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Military ranks dates table
editA table with Audie Murphy's military ranks had been inserted and deleted twice in the last couple of days, with cause. This article is the narrative of Audie Murphy's military career, and those ranks are contained within the article's prose on the date they happened. The table that was inserted was an unattributed copy and paste from Audie Murphy honors and awards. The table is appropriate on the honors and awards page, but it is not appropriate in this article when the same information is in the prose. — Maile (talk) 19:58, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
Please do not rewrite the article
editThe howling cow I appreciate the fact that you want to edit this article for what you believe to be accuracy, or whatever. Or maybe you just like your words and phrasing more than the existing text. But you appear to be slowly rewriting more than one article related to Audie Murphy. It is not necessary. You may notice you keep getting reverted. Do not rewrite sourced notes sections, as you did on Military career of Audie Murphy please. I can't imagine why you would want to change a footnote to what you want it to say, not how it was approved in a review. The main article went through intense scrutiny and fine tuning at FAC, by members of the Military History project. The military career article went through GA, also by a member of the Military History project. Certainly, please do not make changes to sourced notes sections. If you think that much needs to be changed, then start a section here on the talk page and get consensus. — Maile (talk) 00:56, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
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