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Proposed Merge
editThe article on David Pearce (Australian soldier) was nominated for Deletion on 28 October, 2007. The result of the debate was to merge the articles on Sgt. Pearce, Matthew Locke (Australian soldier), and Andrew Russell (Australian soldier) into this article. I have performed this merge, noting the dates and details of each such casualty. The consensus was that the events were notable, particularly given the fact that these are the first Australian casualties since Vietnam, but that the individuals were not in and of themselves notable enough to justify articles. Best, ZZ Claims ~ Evidence 20:50, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Ranks of casualties
editShould the rank of each soldier killed in Afghanistan be included. Either way, I think we need to be consistent and include it for all or none of them. Lawrencema (talk) 03:25, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
- I think that all the ranks should be provided as this is the normal way of writing the name of people serving in the military. Nick-D (talk) 10:01, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
Proposed Troop Increase
editI was thinking about adding a section about proposed troop increase from roughly 1,100 to approx 6,000 by 2011. It's been in the news recently, but i decided to put it past you guys first. Anyone have any ideas? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nath1991 (talk • contribs) 10:26, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- It's nothing but speculation at this stage (mostly from a single retired General), and there's not much to cover. Nick-D (talk) 10:41, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Timeline section and other comments
editI think the Timeline section could be quite easily integrated into the main body of the article. For example, the section on Operation Perth could be moved to the Second Phase section. There is also quite a few unreferenced sections which need to be addressed. Also there is this sentence here "Following this date Australia’s total contribution to efforts in Afghanistan was a single officer attached to the Coalition’s mine clearing force" referring to the withdrawal of Australian forces in December 2002. It should possibly be changed to "Following this date until xxx 200x, Australia's total contribution..." to make these dates clearer. Lawrence, M.J. (talk) 09:53, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
Additions to timeline
editjust quickly added the 2011 section the to timeline (unfortunatly) and added CPL Atkinson to the timeline. I added it very quickly with a refrence to the ABC, so feel free to add another link (not that theres many more reliable, just more that are easier to read) or to remove my section of text 121.214.212.141 (talk) 09:00, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you for the addition. However IMO individual casualties should not be added to the timeline as others are not included there. The timeline should only be for a summary of key events, battles etc. A more appropriate place for this information is Australian Defence Force casualties in Afghanistan where it has already been included. Anotherclown (talk) 22:17, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
- fine, just wondering why you remove the whole section i added for CPL atkinson as he was KILLED not injured. 121.214.212.141 (talk) 09:36, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
- Explained above, and I'm not sure what more I could add to be honest. This information is already included in another article so it doesn't need to be repeated here. Anotherclown (talk) 11:39, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
- all the other Casualtys (and injurys) of operation slipper have been added, so why not CPL attkinson? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.214.212.141 (talk) 06:37, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- That's not correct - the timeline only includes major battles, Australia's first fatality and incidents in which there were multiple casualties. The death of Corporal Attkinson is listed at Australian Defence Force casualties in Afghanistan. Nick-D (talk) 06:53, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- As Nick says, the timeline only includes the first casualty by name. The others are mentioned, but not named, when included in relation to major battles/incidents. All the names are, however, listed in the specific article that Nick mentions. This is probably the best way to handle the information, as the timeline is focused upon the operation as a whole. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 07:26, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- That's not correct - the timeline only includes major battles, Australia's first fatality and incidents in which there were multiple casualties. The death of Corporal Attkinson is listed at Australian Defence Force casualties in Afghanistan. Nick-D (talk) 06:53, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- all the other Casualtys (and injurys) of operation slipper have been added, so why not CPL attkinson? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.214.212.141 (talk) 06:37, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- Explained above, and I'm not sure what more I could add to be honest. This information is already included in another article so it doesn't need to be repeated here. Anotherclown (talk) 11:39, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
- fine, just wondering why you remove the whole section i added for CPL atkinson as he was KILLED not injured. 121.214.212.141 (talk) 09:36, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
We have new casualty. His identity is refused knowledge but you should list him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.211.31.203 (talk) 23:54, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- This page needs updating.
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Brereton Report split?
editA major finding. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 17:17, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- Needs to be split IMO. As well as the Brereton inquiry, the new article should also cover the likely prosecutions etc. to follow. -- Mattinbgn (talk) 19:48, 19 November 2020 (UTC)