Talk:Miljan Zekić

Requested move

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No consensus to move. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:40, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Miljan Zekic → Miljan Zekić – There was no consensus regarding the use of diacritics, so this article should use the diacritics until a consensus is reached. See also: Talk:Mate Pavić.

PL Alvarez ^Talk, 08:02, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

• Strong Oppose - As per the ATP and ITF tennis organizations the player's English sourced name is Miljan Zekic. See also Talk:Marek Zidlicky and Talk:Galina Fokina. Fyunck(click) (talk) 08:23, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
• Oppose. I found nothing in English-language RS about the subject. This should get a WP:PROD. Kauffner (talk) 12:53, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
• Oppose There is no discussion on diacritics on this talk page, so nominator's rationale is superfluous, so this move is missing a rationale. 65.94.77.11 (talk) 06:10, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
• Oppose: The proposed page move is contrary to the established Wiki-policies of WP:UE, WP:COMMONNAME, and WP:RS. Dolovis (talk) 03:33, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

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Note that the above discussion:

(a) cites as precedents a Ukrainian - romanization of Ukrainian has no accents, and a Czech hockey player in America covered under the WP:HOCKEYNAMES compromise (though in fact it isn't clear as as a Czech National Team player the current location is correct). In contrast WP:TENNISNAMES was thoroughly rejected by RfC. In ictu oculi (talk)

(b) miscites WP:UE/WP:COMMONNAME (actually same page) which has "Søren Kierkegaard" as the only personal name example, and WP:RS i.e. "Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources" which says "The reliability of a source depends on context. Each source must be carefully weighed to judge whether it is reliable for the statement being made and is the best such source for that context." In ictu oculi (talk) 12:26, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Requested move 2

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The result of the proposal was Moved. Per consensus here and in the RFC noted by User:Joy. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 13:53, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

• Miljan Zekic → Miljan Zekić
• David Savic → David Savić
• Nikola Spear → Nikola Špear

– per (i) WP:AT(WP:UE) "Søren Kierkegaard" (ii) WP:MOSPN "Paul Erdős" (iii) WP:NCP "Antoni Gaudí" (iv) WP:EN "Tomás Ó Fiaich, not Tomas O'Fiaich", "German for German politicians," (v) WP:BLP "We must get the article right. Be very firm about the use of high quality sources." (vi) WP:MOS "consistent with related articles" other BLPs with surname Zekić, Savić, (vii) consistency with the rest of Category:Serbian people. (viii) WP:CYR/WP:SERBIANNAMES. (ix) consistency with American Zoë Baird, British Noël Coward, Australian Renée Geyer. In ictu oculi (talk) 12:26, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

• Oppose; the ATP World Tour site uses "Miljan Zekic". Powers ^T 17:30, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
• Support. The diacritic is particularly apt for Špear, much like Miroslav Šatan, as it provides important pronunciation information even for non-speakers of the person's native language. Meanwhile, those for whom the diacritic is meaningless can easily see through it to the underlying letter. — P.T. Aufrette (talk) 04:23, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
• Support because User talk:MakeSense64/Tennis names#RfC: Can a wikiproject require no-diacritics names, based on an organisation's rule or commonness in English press? was quite clear - there's absolutely no consensus to automagically remove diacritics from tennis player names or to treat their names without diacritics as "stage names". Is this tennis-induced colossal waste of time move-a-thon ever going to end? :( --Joy [shallot] (talk) 11:25, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
• Support as per Joy.--Zoupan 18:41, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
• Oppose - per English sources, Tennis guidelines, the governing bodies of tennis, media, etc... Fyunck(click) (talk) 19:08, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
• Support to achieve more encyclopedic accuracy. - Darwinek (talk) 14:24, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
• Support per nom. HandsomeFella (talk) 23:15, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
• support per nom and Joy.--KarlB (talk) 12:48, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

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