Talk:Minh Mạng

Need birth name

Need his birth name. Badagnani (talk) 19:18, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Done. Badagnani (talk) 04:45, 27 February 2008 (UTC) does this article contradict itself? "As a result of his Confucian conservatism, Minh Mạng allowed little innovation in Vietnamese society, and in time its military in particular became antiquated." AND "Ming Mạng was keen in Western technologies, namely mechanics, weaponry and navigation which he attempted to introduce into Vietnam" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.58.132.20 (talk) 21:02, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Renaming of Vietnam to Dai Viet

His renaming of Vietnam to "Dai Viet" should be mentioned. Badagnani (talk) 04:33, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

He renamed Việt Nam to Đại Nam (Great South) not Đại Việt (Great Viet).--Amore Mio (talk) 13:42, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Free sex practices

What exactly is meant by the practice of free sex by European Catholics? It is difficult to imagine Catholic priests openly advocating 'free sex' in the sense the term is usually used. Can someone clarify? 68.48.206.242 (talk) 00:57, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: moved per request. Favonian (talk) 11:42, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

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• Minh Mang → Minh Mạng
• Thieu Tri → Thiệu Trị
• Tu Duc → Tự Đức
• Hiep Hoa → Hiệp Hòa
• Kien Phuc → Kiến Phúc
• Ham Nghi → Hàm Nghi
• Dong Khanh → Đồng Khánh
• Thanh Thai → Thành Thái
• Duy Tan → Duy Tân
• Khai Dinh → Khải Định
• Bao Dai → Bảo Đại

– restore Nguyễn Dynasty emperors' Vietnamese names in line with previous RM discussions Talk:Lê Thái Tông etc., and per increasing use in recent WP:IRS English sources, (Southern Vietnam Under the Reign of Minh Mạng (1820-1841) Cornell 2004 etc), and per WP:AT Consistency with Category:Lê Dynasty emperors etc. (see also WP:VN DISTRICT NAMES RFC for broader context). In ictu oculi (talk) 00:48, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

• Support per the consensus at WP:VN DISTRICT NAMES RFC and the fact that they are commonly used in reliable sources, particularly scholarly ones. Neljack (talk) 05:12, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
• Support per nom. Wikipedia does not typically strip diacritics from such names. —  AjaxSmack  01:35, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

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Minh Mang, Han people and Zhongguo

Nguyen Emperor Minh Mang claimed that the Vietnamese had the right to call themselves Han people 漢人

http://books.google.com/books?id=py5Xh0-pw18C&pg=PA115&dq=minh+mang+han&hl=en&sa=X&ei=cOZSUqPkLcbgyQHVzYD4AQ&ved=0CEcQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=minh%20mang%20han&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=q5C3Sbe1iMoC&pg=PA209&dq=minh+mang+han&hl=en&sa=X&ei=cOZSUqPkLcbgyQHVzYD4AQ&ved=0CDwQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=minh%20mang%20han&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=2j6GNiMMc1oC&pg=PA474&dq=kinh+people+of+capital&hl=en&sa=X&ei=g7xJUs2iMoO48wSzq4GYBg&ved=0CDwQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=kinh%20people%20of%20capital&f=false

http://kyotoreview.cseas.kyoto-u.ac.jp/issue/issue4/article_353.html

Minh Mang called Vietnam "Zhongguo" 中國

http://h-net.msu.edu/cgi-bin/logbrowse.pl?trx=vx&list=h-asia&month=9906&week=e&msg=28mq4qDZEWt3sD%2B6t6h/lw&user=&pw=

Sinocentrism#Vietnam

Rajmaan (talk) 04:11, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Han nhan and trung quoc as this is about Viet-Nam, Mandarin is only valid when it concerns Northern-Chinese things.

Sincerely, --Namlong618 (talk) 08:37, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Cham Jihad against Vietnam

The Cham leader Katip Suma declared Jihad against Emperor Minh Mang's invasion of Champa in 1832-1835

http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/history-l-ch-s/78-the-uprisings-of-katip-sumat-and-ja-thak-wa-1833-1835

http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/history-l-ch-s/83-the-uprising-of-jathak-wa-1834-1835

http://books.google.com/books?id=3oMqrqSp1W4C&pg=PA25#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://chamunesco.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=110:the-raja-praong-ritual-a-memory-of-the-sea-in-cham-malay-relations&catid=45:van-hoa&Itemid=120

Meanwhile, lack document to record the yourneys of Malay came to Champa by sea. Execpt, the yourney of Tuen Phaow from Kelantan come to Champa by sea to lead a Jihad movement to expel theVietnamese army from the land of Champa

http://voa-islam.com//news/world-world/2009/07/01/96/history-of-islam-in-vietnam/;

http://voa-islam.com/news/world-world/2009/07/01/96/history-of-islam-in-vietnam/;

http://m.voa-islam.com/news/world-world/2009/07/01/96/history-of-islam-in-vietnam/;

http://www.angelfire.com/vt/vietnamesemuslims/hstry.html

http://books.google.com/books?id=Zw0j_5OauH8C&pg=PT180#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/news-tin-t-c/world-th-gi-i/120-the-champa-history-book-debut-and-a-seminar-on-the-indiginous-people-of-champa

http://kyotoreview.cseas.kyoto-u.ac.jp/issue/issue4/article_353.html

http://kyotoreview.org/issue-5/vietnam-champa-relations-and-the-malay-islam-regional-network-in-the-17th-19th-centuries/

Rajmaan (talk) 16:52, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

Plagiarism?

Large portions of this article are word-for-word copied from an article by the Project Gutenberg Self-Publishing Press sourced from the World Heritage Encyclopedia. Major revamp is necessary.

http://www.self.gutenberg.org/articles/minh_m%E1%BA%A1ng

Vnguyen518 (talk) 22:32, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

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Doesn't make sense

The phrase "Minh Mang exhibited his admiring to Confucian rule" doesn't make sense in English. Please fix. 98.123.38.211 (talk) 00:15, 30 April 2024 (UTC)