Talk:Mining in Australia

ACOTF Comments

Comments from the ACOTF nomination were:

• I was suprised to find that while we have a few articles in Category:Mines in Australia, there is no article to tie together one of our largest export industries. There are only brief mentions of mining in Economy of Australia and Economic history of Australia. --Scott Davis ^Talk 05:02, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
• I'm surprised as well. Isn't Australia where most opals come from? Fluit 01:19, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
• So few Australian mining articles in Wikpedia -- I@n ≡ talk 02:38, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
• How many major mines can you name? Mount Isa, Broken Hill, Olympic Dam, Mount Magnet, Leigh Creek, Coober Pedy (nice to see that they all exist as redirects)... Alphax ^τεχ 02:01, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
  • In almost all cases, you actually named mining towns, not the mines themselves :-) A few more off the top of my head: Kambalda, Leinster, Mount Keith, Challenger Mine, Beaconsfield, Century Mine, Burra, Kapunda, Nhulunbuy, Weipa, Honeymoon Uranium Mine, Beverley Uranium Mine, Ranger Uranium Mine, White Cliffs, Iron Knob, Yallourn, Tennant Creek, Moomba, Stawell, Bendigo, Inneston, Gwalia. --Scott Davis ^Talk 08:02, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Other relevant subtopics

Surely, this article needs subheaders on The Eureka Stockade and Chinese immigrants? (It's late at night; I'm not going to write them off the top of my head now ... Colonel Tom 13:56, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps the next two paragraphs of history. We've barely mentioned the Cornish and Welsh immigrants so far either. --Scott Davis ^Talk 21:36, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

see comments below about cats, but on that train of thought, Category:Australian people by ethnic or national origin has Category:Welsh-Australians but not any miners there, and nothing on the Cornish. Category:Chinese Australians has no miners nor mining related article. The article Chinese Australian has some info on mining related immigration. Not much help in Category:Australian immigration. Category:Ethnic groups in Australasia has Anglo-Celtic and Anglo-Celtic Australian but little about why the mix might have been influeced by the gold rushes and cornish immigration for example. Our Australian people articles are still a work in progress. --A Y Arktos\^talk 22:09, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Categories for mining

From the comments above I think maybe a Category:Mining Towns in Australia Category:Mining towns in Australia could be useful. We do have Category:Mines in Australia and the newly created Category:Mining in Australia. As a child of that there is Category:Mining towns in Queensland - there are probably enough towns to have a similar cat for each of the states. Would we categorise Eureka stockade and Lambing Flat riots under mining, or do we want another history of mining cat, and if so what should it be named? I feel categorisation will help us to tack down some of the picture we already have, acknowledging that there are also gaps.--A Y Arktos\^talk 22:09, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

(I have changed the capital T to a lowercase t in the category proposal above - hope that's OK A.Y.) --Scott Davis ^Talk 05:10, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Could be useful if we can identify objective criteria for defining a "mining town". "Coastal towns" are rather simpler. Do towns change status as mining towns when the mine closes or opens? For example which of the following should be categorised as mining towns?

• Stawell, Victoria
• Burra, South Australia
• Moonta, South Australia
• Glen Osmond, South Australia
• Strathalbyn, South Australia
• Singleton, New South Wales

It's probably obvious that these are mining towns as they would be never have been settled without mining, and would be ghost towns now if the mining stopped:

• Roxby Downs, South Australia
• White Cliffs, New South Wales
• Kalgoorlie, Western Australia

--Scott Davis ^Talk 12:04, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

• I would allow them all to be categorised as mining towns. I think to qualify, mining would have to have been at some stage the main employer in the town and to have dominated the town's economy. Thus I would even categorise Maryborough, Victoria as a mining town based on its history, and certainly Ballarat and Bendigo; I would not class them as mining cities, I think mining town should be sufficient. Happy to hear other views though.--A Y Arktos\^talk 12:19, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

That is probably workable. Towns can become mining towns, but they can never drop the tag if they have ever been a mining town. I don't think mining has ever been the dominant industry in Strathalbyn (even with a new zinc mine opening later this year, mining won't dominate). I don't know if it was dominant in Glen Osmond either, but it could have for ten years or so. Interesting to categorise it as a mining town, and suburb of Adelaide (it's not a "town" now). Is mining dominant in Singleton, or is that dominated by agriculture (including viticulture), winemaking, tourism and the Army? And I confess I was thinking of the current Stawell gold mine, not any previous dominance when I put that in my "maybe" list. --Scott Davis ^Talk 01:55, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes. A town can easily become a mining town (after a nearby mine is established). However, towns never really seem to lose their "mining town" status because the presence of a mine near a town brings a lot of unique people and helps drive business in certains ways and as such, the town's culture is heavily influenced by the prescence of the mine. So, even after a mine shuts down many things reminescent of the mining culture still remain. If a mining company abandons a town for a long time I believe it becomes an "old mining town" but the mining town status still remains. Blastcube 02:37, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

• As at 2 August these categories are being considered for deletion - discussion at Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 August 2#Category:Mining towns in Australia--A Y Arktos\^talk 10:56, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Not a complete list

Suspecting that given the list only / mostly showed accidents with multiple fatalities I did some googling and quickly found a few references indicating that regular work place deaths occur in the Australian mining sector. Either this should be noted, or a reason this is not noted should be agreed upon by contributors.--Senor Freebie (talk) 11:32, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Chinese investment in Australian iron ore

BusinessWeek ran a cover story on Chinese investment in Australian mining not that long ago; some of the content might be of relevance.

• Malcolm Knox, 2 September 2010, The Deal Is Simple. Australia Gets Money, China Gets Australia, BusinessWeek

Regards, -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email 12:45, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

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