Talk:Minix 3

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Any Book there which teaches step-by-step coding of OS (e.g. Minix/Minix-3)

Over time I have been looking for a book which can guide say a C/C++ programmer to write his/her own simple OS. Normally books only discuss the various modules(Memory Management, Process Management etc) and stop at that, in case of book on Minix by Andrew S. Tanenbaum it supplied the source code but didn't devote chapters on writing part of the souce code. Any such book available somewhere or is there a plan for the same on Wikibook/Wikiversity. Vjdchauhan 10:50, 4 January 2007 (UTC).

Yes, there is such a book now available at Wikibooks: Operating System Design. Please help improve it.

You may also find the links and references in the hobbyist operating system development article useful. --DavidCary (talk) 14:26, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Contradiction

The drivers do not have access to the I/O port space and cannot issue I/O instructions directly. Instead, they must make kernel calls giving a list of I/O ports to write to and the values to be written. [...]

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In turn, the file server gets disk I/O performed by sending messages to the disk driver, which actually controls the disk. [...]

These two statements seem to contradict themselves. --Abdull (talk) 23:26, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

They're not. Message sending has nothing to do with I/O ports. (Anonymous) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.186.50.98 (talk) 11:55, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

The wide variety of hardware including immutable CPU's designed just for Minix3 can cause confusion. With Minix3 you can do many things as evidenced by the unhackable applications. Scottprovost (talk) 22:54, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

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micorkernel comparison?

how about a brief section on similarities and differences between minix-3 and other microrkernels? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.136.108.216 (talk) 22:39, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Neutral point of view of the Architecture section

There are too many "we" and the like for it too be called neutral. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.217.4.135 (talk) 15:03, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

This appears to have been addressed at some point. JesseChisholm (talk) 14:07, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

The article as a whole needs rewriting?

I agree with the above paragraph. However, in my opinion the whole article feels like a brochure. In addition, it also looks like a project page (with all the different release descriptions). The article would need a fair amount of rewrite - also to have it structured better - since it also looks like an organically grown scratch pad. Should the article be tagged in any way to show some of these matters? I don't have experience enough as a Wikipedia-writer to do that myself, to ensure that a tag would be used as unbiased as possible. However, it is an important to have a Minix 3 article! Øyvind Teig (talk) 09:12, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

I agree that it needs reformatting to read better on the page, however the comment that it reads like a brochure is misinformed. The listing of the different release cycles is quite important to understand the development and history of Minix, and really can't be found anywhere else. It's quite similar to what you find on other operating system pages. A previous editor did a good job in that respect, formatting not so much, bless his soul. Nodekeeper (talk) 03:18, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

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Latest release at right is out of date

Iin the table at right it says 3.3.0 is the latest release. In the body it says 3.4.0 is the latest release. Encyclopedant (talk) 06:22, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Ownership

Minix3 is owned by Delft University of Technology since that is where Professor Tanenbaum was employed when he wrote it. It is maintained under the stewardship of Stichting MINIX Research Foundation.

"Up until now, we have had the luxury of European Research Council funding for several expert professional programmers and support from the Vrije Universiteit. That will end in 2014. Also, one of us (AST) has paid for the server personally. In the longer run, we are going to need money to keep the infrastructure going, renew domain names, and other things. To keep the show on the road, we have set up a Stichting ("foundation") based in Amsterdam to handle money going forward. The foundation is nonprofit and its mission is to support and develop MINIX." Scottprovost (talk) 23:03, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

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Minix 3 is a kernel, not an OS

The correct name for the operating system which is a composition of NetBSD minus kNetBSD, plus Minix 3 (ie. which uses Minix 3 instead of kNetBSD), is actually NetBSD+Minix3, since that accurately shows how most of the system is NetBSD, and Minix 3, which is a kernel, came along later, unplugged kNetBSD, and plugged in Minix 3 in its place. 185.217.158.63 (talk) 16:04, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

MINIX is not just a kernel, it is a fully fledged OS. Quetstar (talk) 18:18, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Quetstar, you are now harassing me by following me around Wikipedia and either reverting what I say or disagreeing with me whilst giving no reasons. Please stop this obvious trolling.

Look at the source code; Minix 3 is just a kernel; it was swapped out for kNetBSD.

185.217.158.63 (talk) 18:27, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

You're litterally wrong: Minix is a full OS, not just a kernel. While it uses parts of the NetBSD userland and pkgsrc, there are lots of other differences that distinguish the two. As for the harrasment claim, that is a lie, I'm just following policy since your edits are not backed up by reliable sources. Quetstar (talk) 19:44, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Even if you are correct, which you are not, why did you also revert irrelevant contributions like my rewording of unrelated paragraphs into a more encyclopedic tone? You're harassing me by following me around Wikipedia and constantly undoing my contributions.

185.217.158.63 (talk) 22:14, 22 March 2022 (UTC)