Talk:Minnie J. Grinstead

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Coren Bot Copyvio error

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The Coren bot is in error. But just to be on the safe side, I rewrote a couple sections and put into quotes the quote block, which may have triggered the bot. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:12, 27 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

Hello, Megalibrarygirl. :) I'm just arriving at this myself, but before looking must note that a human reviewer in December concurred with the bot, concluding that there close paraphrasing issues that would need additional work. It was also a problem noted by the user who added the "close paraphrasing" tag in December - this was not a bot.

To explain the issue, while facts are not copyrightable, creative elements of presentation – including both structure and language – are.

Looking at that first draft, I can see that there seems to have been some quite close following of the source. I've randomly zeroed in on two paragraphs, and am bolding where text is identicial:

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Minnie Johnson married Virgil Hooker Grinstead, an attorney and former Lane County judge and county attorney in Lane and Pawnee counties, on October 31, 1901, in Larned, Kansas. They had four children, but only two survived to adulthood: Grace Darlene, born June 26, 1906, and Milton Wayde, born October 10, 1907. In the fall of 1906 the family moved to Liberal. A good orator, Minnie campaigned for prohibition in Missouri in 1910. She also crusaded for women suffrage and chaired the Seventh Congressional District Committee in the successful 1912 effort to amend the Kansas constitution to allow full voting rights for women. As a result, she was mentioned as a Republican nominee for the United States Senate in 1914.	She married Virgil Hooker Grinstead, a former Lane County judge and county attorney, in 1901. They had four children, but only two survived to adulthood. The family moved to Liberal, Kansas in 1906.[1] Grinstead was a skilled orator, and campaigned for Prohibition in Missouri in 1910. She also crusaded for women's 'suffrage and chaired a committee which assisted in amending the Constitution of Kansas to allow full voting rights for women in 1912

This is an example; there may or may not be other passages that similarly follow quite closely.

There are many ways to express information in English, and the threshold for originality is deliberately set quite low. In these passages, there is a lot of language taken fro the original with minimal changes; in some parts, it reads rather like an abridgment. As a website that is widely read and reused, Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously to protect the interests of the holders of copyright as well as those of the Wikimedia Foundation and our reusers. Wikipedia's copyright policies require that the content we take from non-free sources, aside from brief and clearly marked quotations, be rewritten from scratch. So that we can be sure it does not constitute a derivative work, this article should be revised to separate it further from its source. The essay Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing (linked also above) contains some suggestions for rewriting that may help avoid these issues. The article Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2009-04-13/Dispatches also contains some suggestions for reusing material from sources that may be helpful, beginning under "Avoiding plagiarism".

I've put the tag back to flag the issues noted in December and hope this explanation will help. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 21:29, 21 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

Copyright problem removed

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Prior content in this article duplicated one or more previously published sources. The material was copied from: http://www.kshs.org/kansapedia/minnie-j-grinstead/11734. Copied or closely paraphrased material has been rewritten or removed and must not be restored, unless it is duly released under a compatible license. (For more information, please see "using copyrighted works from others" if you are not the copyright holder of this material, or "donating copyrighted materials" if you are.)

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