Talk:Minotaur-class cruiser (1906)/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Dank (talk · contribs) 21:44, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Beginning my review (I have some of the sources on this one). - Dank (push to talk) 21:44, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

• The Toolbox checks out.
• Alphabetize the bibliography.
  • Indeed.
• Gardiner isn't used as a source.
  • Deleted.
• Image tags aren't my strong point, but how do you know that File:Minotaur class cruiser diagrams Brasseys 1912.jpg and File:HMS Defence 1907.jpg are "life of the author plus 70 years" without knowing who the authors are?
  • The first was improperly tagged and I've fixed it. I've exchanged the second one, with ambiguous sourcing, with one from the IWM.
• For File:BL 7.5 inch Mk V guns for HMS Shannon Vickers Works LOC ggbain 19618.jpg, do we have enough for PD?
  • Yes, based on a ruling I got when I used one at an FAC.
• "They ... as the flagship of a cruiser squadron.": "flagship" modifies "They" here, so it should be plural. You could say "They ... as flagships of cruiser squadrons" if you like.
• Reading "Minotaur became flagship of the China Station in 1910 and Defence served as flagship of the 1st Cruiser Squadron in the Mediterranean from 1912 while Shannon remained at home.", I wouldn't guess that Shannon was "frequently serving as the flagship of the 5th, 2nd and 3rd Cruiser Squadrons before reverting to the flagship of the 2nd Squadron in 1914." It might work as "Before (date), Minotaur did this, Defence did that, and Shannon remained at home."
  • This one was tough, I ended up just clarifying Shannon's role at home. Does it satisfy?
    • Yes. - Dank (push to talk)
• "When World War I began in August 1914": Well, technically, "After Britain entered World War I in August 1914"
  • True, but only because she didn't start the war.
• "pursuit": Linking just one word makes it an WP:EGG problem. Link more.
  • Done and slightly reworded
• "while Shannon remained", "while Minotaur hunted for the German East Asia Squadron": Don't use "while" if it might mean either "whereas" or "at the same time as", because your reader won't know which you mean.
  • Guess I won't be using while anywhere near as often then.
• "after the end of the war": after the war
  • Yes.
• "The Minotaur class, the first design by ..., were ...": "The Minotaur-class ships, the first designed by ..., were ..."
  • OK
• "than her sistersto evaluate if she would be faster": than her sisters on the theory that this might allow her to be faster [and, up to you, but I'd be just a little more comfortable saying "sister ships" rather than "sisters" at first occurrence]
  • Another tricky one. I've rewritten it differently, see if it works. I guess that I'm just more comfortable equating sister ships with sisters than most readers.
• "one foot broader": was one foot broader
  • Yes.
• "the Duke of Edinburgh-class.": no hyphen.
  • Hoist on my own petard.
• "A normal load they had": At normal load ...
  • Yes.
• "A normal load they had a metacentric height of 3.05 feet (0.9 m) and 3.25 feet (1.0 m) at deep load.": At normal load they had a metacentric height of 3.05 feet (0.9 m), and at deep load, 3.25 feet (1.0 m).
• "her trial three days before Minotaur": her trial three days before Minotaur's
  • Agreed.
• "before the two": before the other two
  • No, there were only two left.
    • Oops, right. - Dank (push to talk)
• "Shannon, however, was": Shannon was
  • Done, but why? I thought the "however" set off the following "actually" nicely. No?
    • No, but if you want to keep "however" and ditch "actually", that works too. You don't need two emphasizers here; one does the job (for an encyclopedic tone). - Dank (push to talk) 03:08, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
      • That makes sense.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 05:32, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
• Otherwise:

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

• On hold. - Dank (push to talk) 23:52, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the review.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 02:28, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
• Sure thing. Passed. - Dank (push to talk) 03:08, 24 March 2013 (UTC)