Talk:Mint julep/Archive 1
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sour mash
ordering a julep made with Tennessee sour mash instead of bourbon
- uh, sour mash is bourbon. SchmuckyTheCat 23:23, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
- Not according to Tennessee whiskey Travisl 01:13, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
- Blasphemy, SchmuckyTheCat!!! :) see Bourbon whiskey and the above link for the dif. youngamerican (ahoy-hoy) 01:52, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Jack daniels is the only tennessee sour mash left thatbis nationally distributed. You can find george dickel, which is another tennessee sour mash, but it isnt popular anymore.
There is kentucky straight bourbon, but there is no such thing as a popular kentucky sour mash. So the prefix is not neccessary. But you guys know EVERYTHING there has ever been to know abouy the mint julep and i know nothing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1:c6e1:bdc1:a87f:c0e0:e4d:cac (talk) 14:47, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
Apple juleps?
I remember when I was young my mother would make my "Derby Day Julep" with apple juice instead of bourbon. It was refreshing and delicious...does anyone know if this is a common tradition? JD79 17:32, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Why is this a Louisville project and not a Kentucky project? Spacini 03:43, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
Recipe
The recipe provided in the article is hardly authentic. Anyone care if I revise it to include the muddling of the mint with the sugar (not simple syrup!) and when the ice and bourbon are added? --Spacini 22:29, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
Origins
Nearly all whiskey historians, mixologists, and mint julep historians (and fans) agree that the the origins of the mint julep are, at best, murkey. I would suggest that we remove the reference to Mint Bayou Springs' claim (the only reference found for this claim is a web page of the Vicksburg Convention and Visitors Bureau--neither Nickell or Harwell mention it), and note that the origins are contested, but likely began in Virgnia. John Davis wrote in 1804, of a "dram of spiritous liquor that has mint in it, taken by Virginians of a morning." Spacini 17:19, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
- I don't see the harm in noting that a community claims to have invented it, just like the cheeseburger article shows three different cities claiming its invention. Otherwise, I tend to think your position is plausible. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 20:05, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
John Davis wrote in 1804, of a "dram of spiritous liquor that has mint in it, taken by Virginians of a morning."
I have a problem with this. A book source I have and also an online news article I have up say the published date was 1803. Can anyone else confirm? Anakus 06:31, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
Ted Shane's 'Bar Guide' (1955, Frederick Muller, London, p. 103) says the mint julep 'is allegedly a Southern invention, but it was taken back in ancient Rome to "assuage and cool the heat of passion"'. Anyone else heard of an ancient origin? Zoe Ocean 10:37, 26 April 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zoe Buchanan (talk • contribs)
The Kentucky Derby - Number of Mint Juleps served
This section states that "The mint julep is well-known as the traditional beverage of the Kentucky Derby, a position it has held since 1938. During the 2007 event, more than 120,000 juleps were served at Churchill Downs."
I believe there are a couple of problems here. First of all, this needs a citation. I found a supporting reference at www.kentuckyderby.com (which is the official site of the Derby and owned by Churchill Downs). However, that site says "Each year, almost 120,000 Early Times Mint Juleps are served over the two-day period of the Kentucky Oaks and Kentucky Derby."
Related to this is a conflict with a link in "External Links" -- Mint Julep at kentuckyderby.info which states that over 80,000 juleps are served during the Oaks and Derby.
In light of this, I made the following edits:
- correct the 120,000 figure to indicate that it includes the Oaks and Derby (and is each year, not just 2007)
- provide a citation to the KentuckyDerby.com site
- removed the external link to kentuckyderby.info since it contradicts the official site wrt number of juleps served.
Creme de Menthe
It says Disney uses Creme de Menthe and limeade to make their nonalcoholic mint juleps. Creme de Menthe is a liqueur. No wonder so many kids like Disney if that's what they're serving up in the New Orleans section of EPCOT. Menthol Cigarettes 03:58, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- As it's been over a year, and the statement is unsourced and can't be true, I took it out. Rees11 (talk) 05:23, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Julep cups
isn't pewter toxic? --Originally unsigned comment by User:64.180.239.117
- Not necessarily. Pewter may contain lead, but rarely does anymore. -- stubblyhead | T/c 22:16, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
I am personally a little offended that the WRONG GLASS is shown at the top of this article. Can't someone find an appropriate picture with a silver cup? I suppose that as a last resort I could take a picture of the Julep I am drinking as I type... Affenbart (talk) 20:47, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
- I can't say I'm offended, but this is a common problem. Check out, for example, the Hurricane (cocktail) article, which has a photo of the drink being served not in a Hurricane glass but in a plastic cup! By all means do take a photo and contribute it. I find it a pain submitting photos and haven't done as much of it as I should. Rees11 (talk) 23:02, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
The last sentence of "Preparation", indicating that the drink is now typically served in glass, is both un-cited, and in my experience completely wrong. If it was only one or the other I would leave it, but throughout the South, in London, and even plenty of bars up North, I've run in to a vanishingly small number of places that use glass. Honestly, Indian/persian hammered copper cups have come into vogue in London, but as that's original research (copious amounts of it) I can't include it. As the comment stands, I move to cite it or delete it. (talk) 12:22, 26 March 2013 (GMT)