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Birth/death dates

According to In the Time of the Butterflies (ISBN 0-452-27442-7), within the introduction, the birth and death dates of the 3 sisters are as follows:

Patria Mercedes Mirabal

Feb 27, 1924 - Nov 25, 1960

Minerva Mirabal

Mar 12, 1926 - Nov 25, 1960

María Teresa Mirabal

Oct 15, 1935 - Nov 25, 1960

I also notice that the youngest sister does not have any "Antonia" in her name.

(Also, the author's name is consistantly spelled Julia Alvarez, without an accent, in the same book.)

Can anyone else verify this? --Astronouth7303 01:22, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

In response to the birth dates offered in Julia Alvare'z novel...
Also according to In the Time of the Butterflies (ISBN 0-452-27442-7) from the First Plume Printing edition from 1995, within the postscript message, Ms. Alvarez states that she took liberties in constructing the lives and events of the Mirabal sisters (p.324). Furthermore, there is a Publisher's Note expressing that Ms. Alvarez's novel is a work of fiction. In the Time of the Butterflies should not be used as a source for the true events and dates pertaining to the story of the Mirabal sisters.
Meeshi323 (talk) 05:01, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

But is the introduction not a nonfictional work intended to give accurate historical context in which the following fictional work that followed? Toyblocks (talk) 04:50, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

I found different birth dates for Patria (2/24/24) and Minerva (3/1/25) from ISBN: 9780313314, in Notable Caribbeans and Caribbean Americans page 310. [User:MapleRobin] — Preceding unsigned comment added by MapleRobin (talk • contribs) 21:37, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Sources

Can someone with access to the book mentioned above, or other reputable info on the sisters, add some sources to this? Millichip (talk) 21:48, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

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Shouldn't the word in the first paragraph be "resides" (or perhaps even "presides") instead of "precedes", in this sentence:

"She precedes in the sister's natal house and works to preserve her sister's memory through the "Museo Hermanas Mirabal" which is also located in Salcedo and was home to the girls for the final ten months of their lives)."

And that last bracket needs removing.

Rosa Lichtenstein 13:27, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

To say that Trujillo was romantically interested in Minerva is too generous to him. There were some Dominican women even coming from middle and upper class backgrounds who were willing to trade Trujillo sexual for economic and political favors. The Mirabals were not among them. At the time of the assasination Trujillo is rumored to have told some of his circle he could bring one or two Mirabals around to free their husbands from jail. Instead Trujillo was scolded in front of them.

It has been suggested by various political authors that Trujillo was assasinated by Dominicans at the request of the CIA. In fact the Dominicans merely asked if the US would support a new government even if the leaders were among those implicated. The Mirabal assasination and his other atrocities caused sufficient desire on the part of certain Dominicans they wanted to do it themselves. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.240.206.205 (talk) 22:06, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Trujillo

Is there any evidence that Trujillo met any of the Mirabal sisters personally?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.49.223.220 (talk) 19:43, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

In fact, Trujillo had met all of the Mirabal sisters personally, and credible evidence given by a prison official to both a Parish Priest who was a constant visitor to the prison and to a Mirabal family member puts Trujillo in the presence of the torture sessions of two of the sisters, he refused to intervien in the Torture, although he was not present during the multiple rapes of the Sisters. The incidents relating to Trujillo being present during torture sessions of not only the Mirabal sisters but of other high profile political prisoners was coraborated by another member of Trujillo's military staff in exile in Miami. These facts were uncovered by the same researchers who identified evidence linking Ford Foundation funds given to a para-military group involved with the secret kidnapings of Political Oponents of Agusto Pinochet, Dictator of Chile and central figure in the Murder of Salvador Allende, researchers and Human Rights Activists, Brian Shepard - Graduate in Economy UC Berkeley and Ramon Sevilla Graduate of Bolt School of Law - UC Berkeley —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.174.211.28 (talk) 05:38, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Trujillo kill the Mirabal's because they were opposed to his dictathorship La Díaz (talk) 04:07, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

Nature of death

Sound like unreliable conspiracy theorists to me. Although these women are apparently now much revered amongst some politial groups in Dominican Republic, it is odd that there is nothing said about how they died. Could it be because it was in fact an accident, or from a cause that cannot actually be linked to Trujillo? Are they in fact being used by the anti-Trujillo faction? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.197.15.138 (talk) 06:18, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Whatever the motivation for their absence, the lack of any details of the actual deaths is surprising. Nick Cooper (talk) 10:32, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Clandestine activities

The statement that they were "involved in clandestine activities against his regime" reads like a euphemism. If they were collecting guns and bombs I would have thought that terrorists or revolutionaries or even freedom fighters would be a more apt description. They did not just distribute pampletsRoyalcourtier (talk) 19:48, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Indeed. Missing. Zezen (talk) 06:06, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

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Only one footnote, about the sister who was not murdered.Millichip (talk) 21:49, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

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Proposed merge with Antonia María Teresa Mirabal Reyes

So much of the material is about the assassination of three sisters together - we don't want duplication of material, and this article adds nothing which isn't already in the article on the sisters. Would have been eligible for CSD A10 if it wasn't a valid missing redirect. PamD 08:16, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Agreed (a few months after the fact!). Apparently no objection so I'll do the merge. Pichpich (talk) 22:24, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

Dede birth date - 29th Feb?

Dede's birth is given as 29th Feb 1925, but this date did not exist in the UK: it was not a leap year. Did the Dominican Republic use a different calendar? Some sources say things like "she was born February 29, 1925 (her birth was filed on March 1st so this is her legal birthday)." here. I can't find a reliable-looking source for 1 March, although it's given in the list of dates at start of "Sisters" section. PamD 07:32, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Found one eventually. PamD 07:37, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Aída Patria Mercés Mirabal Reis de González

I noticed that while the other sisters have pages dedicated to them, Patria does not have one. Would someone care to elaborate on why this is the case? Did we not want to merge or duplicate information that was already offered in the article? Regardless, I believe a page should also be created on Patria and I would be more than happy to work on it! -BryantPol (talk) 18:46, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

There are many citations missing throughout the article, shouldn't the books they are mentioned in under the popular culture section be cited directly? Pages are missing throughout the article such as "Mirabal Sisters Cultural and Community Center". Adela's work in creating the "Mirabal Sisters Foundation" and "Mirabal Sisters museum" should also be mentioned under their legacy as well. -BryantPol (talk) 19:15, 6 September 2021 (UTC)