Talk:Miranda Hart

TV or radio?

I think the last line of this page is in error, as a radio series called "Miranda Hart's Joke Shop" is currently being broadcast. I'll alter it if no-one has evidence to the contrary. Jon Rob (talk) 12:18, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

I was wrong - a pilot for a TV version of the series has been filmed. Jon Rob (talk) 12:02, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

It still reads strangely - "filming has started on a ... Radio 2 sitcom" 212.84.97.168 (talk) 13:25, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

I changed it to Recording. Hope that's ok. Paul Largo (talk) 22:13, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Comedian/comedienne

As someone's just made this edit I'm wondering whether Hart refers to herself as a comedian or a comedienne. I know many women prefer the former, but it would be very useful if we could have a source for this for future reference. Can anyone help? TheRetroGuy (talk) 22:44, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Have a look at her own website. On this one page, we have "Miranda gained her reputation as one of our top, up and coming comediennes ..." twice. Elsewhere in her site, in the reviews, "comedienne" is used 3 times versus "comedian" once. --Redrose64 (talk) 23:17, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

If her own website refers to her as a comedienne we should go with that. I've changed it back and will post a comment on the user's talk page. Thanks for getting back to me. TheRetroGuy (talk) 23:20, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

I checked her website and under about it only ever describes her as a comedian now, never comedienne. even the footer of every page features 'comedian' time to expunge this outdated term.--Tom of north wales (talk) 20:44, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

I changed the article now to comedian. I also did another thorough search of her website and could find no instances of the word comedienne. Comedian it is! --Tom of north wales (talk) 20:50, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

I love Cultural Marxism! / -: Why not also change 'actress' to 'actor' whilst you're at it? 70.238.218.113 (talk) 14:52, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

No, because she calls herself an actress. See Miranda Hart: 'Can I be an actress, not a 6ft 1in actress?' --Bermicourt (talk) 09:29, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Disclosure

I learned last night that Patricia Hodge and Miranda are up for Monte-Carlo TV Fesival awards for their performances in Miranda. And googling I see that Miranda won the RTS award. I've put this in in NPoV but I do know Miranda so I should disclose this in case anyone thinks it's WP:COI in which case please edit to improve. NBeale (talk) 06:20, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

I've also added the FT comment. I suspect there are lots of other nice things. People might look at:

• this in the Guardian
• this in the Telegraph where she has the first and longest profile in an article called "Britain's funniest women".
• The rave review in the Guardian "what a show! ...More! More!"

And today a big profile in The Guardian NBeale (talk) 17:10, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

She is described by Claudia Winkelman as "the funniest woman on earth" i-Player at about 45:47. Anyone want to put that in? NBeale (talk) 13:19, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Again I hope that adding the 2011 nominations is considered NPoV although I do know Miranda - if anyone thinks its COI please edit. I did not add that the "People’s Choice Award For The King Or Queen Of Comedy 2010" is "to be decided on the night of the Awards" and based on phone voting which is open until 22-Jan-2010, details here NBeale (talk) 16:25, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

I tweaked the David Walliams dancing point, and added a link to youTube. I know that this isn't necessarily a WP:RS but it's quite funny. As noted above Miranda is a friend but I hope no-one thinks the tweak is COI. If so please re-tweak appropriately. NBeale (talk) 07:57, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Photo

She really produced that herself? It's a pretty poor one if her face isn't even visible. Can we request another, or is there a free one from elsewhere? --81.159.71.246 (talk) 00:12, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Her birthname

We appear to have a small disagreement on her birthname. The reference provided in the infobox seems to support the name 'Miranda Katherine Hart-Dyke' and as her father had that surname it's likely she would have been given it. However, a couple of times recently someone has deleted the 'Dyke' part. So let's get this sorted out and have a definitive answer. I'm happy with whatever people choose to go with as long as we can find something to reference it. TheRetroGuy (talk) 16:47, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

There is a reference to her father in an online guide to the peerage which includes her birth name. The entry is about two-thirds of the way down the page at http://thepeerage.com/p33052.htm and both it and Mirandas entry ( at the bottom of the same page ) cite Burke's peerage. Pendleboater (talk) 00:07, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

I haven't been back here for a few days so sorry about the delayed reply. Thanks for finding that. Seems ok to me. We can add it to reference her name and some information about her father. I'm a bit pushed for time at the moment, but I'll add it later on this evening or tomorrow. TheRetroGuy (talk) 20:45, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Everything added now. Thanks again for your help. Cheers TheRetroGuy (talk) 22:32, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Sexual orientation

There should be a reference to this in the article. Hart is a public figure. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.151.27.83 (talk) 03:04, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

For what it's worth, she is probably straight, from what I can see. No it isn't a forum. But people want to know78.151.27.83 (talk) 03:25, 9 March 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.149.211.142 (talk)

Probably not...86.187.173.82 (talk) 14:04, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

Probably a lemon but so what 81.154.170.35 (talk) 05:54, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Sources

This article relies heavily on citations to thepeerage.com, which has been discussed at the Reliable Sources Noticeboard WP:RSN and determined that it is not a reliable source, and should not be used as references in articles.[1][2] Self-published sources cannot be used a references in a BLP per WP:BLPSPS The citations have been removed, but not the associated text, and tags inserted for the former footnotes. Better sources must be found for this text; text that is not supported by in-line citation to a reliable source may be removed.Fladrif (talk) 22:19, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Ancestry

This section is far too long. The details are not even notable, as most people are probably descended from many of the same ancestors without knowing. Valetude (talk) 12:30, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

I am descended from these ancestors. And neither am I a lesbian. 86.187.173.82 (talk) 14:05, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

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sexual orientation and background

you people are hilarious. first of all if she isn't going to talk about her orientation why should it be anyone's right to know, just because "... people want to know"??? does being a public person require all one's details to be known?

secondly, Miranda Hart doesn't give a damn about her background but you elucidate it in excruciating detail which is mostly meaningless. I'd say cut 9/10ths of it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.95.219.182 (talk) 21:20, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

You clearly care more than anyone else here. 222.153.35.136 (talk) 02:16, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

Aren't we overdoing it on the relatives?

In the infobox that is. Sure, let's include her parents and a couple of uncles, even a cousin or two perhaps, but is it appropriate to mention her link to Diana, Princess of Wales there? We haven't even done that for David Cameron, who probably has more relatives among the aristocracy than Hart. Any thoughts? This is Paul (talk) 21:12, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

To be honest, even the article itself goes a little overboard on the subject of her ancestry, particularly considering the number of celebrities similarly related to aristocracy but who attempt to disguise the fact, even though they're definitively named in reference books on the subject. It does seem like a contributor- perfectly well-intentioned- maybe put a little too much detail in, particularly given the sources indicated can be researched by interested readers if they're that interested.

Requested Move

Move this page to Miranda — Preceding unsigned comment added by JavaPythonLutz (talk • contribs) 12:02, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

Why? Even her official website refers to her as Miranda Hart. —C.Fred (talk) 14:41, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

Gallop

Why isn't it in her page? What is it? And why is it related to her? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.168.113.56 (talk) 09:20, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

List of Relations

Is this overly extensive list of minor great-and-goods really necessary? She's a comedian, not Benjamin Disraeli. How relevant is this? Hanoi Road (talk) 21:38, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

Not very. I had the same thought, but wasn't up for another protracted dispute over it. Most notable people are related to other notable people if you look hard enough. That doesn't mean we have to describe it all, nor is every time someone mentions something about their ancestry necessarily noteworthy. And because someone is bound to point out that 'it is found in a Reliable source so it should be included', that only shows it is verifiable, not that it represents a significant aspect of her identity that adds appreciable insight to the biography, as opposed to fluff on a slow news day. To have a family section almost as long as the description of her career is certainly excessive for someone whose career isn't dependent in any way on their genealogical connections with cricketers and admirals. I would vote to keep the first two paragraphs, maybe even removing part of the second one, and I would probably throw in the name of her maternal grandfather when naming her non-notable mother, and then remove the rest of it. Agricolae (talk) 22:36, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

Seems a reasonable solution. That section, as is, is wholly ridiculous. Hanoi Road (talk) 12:09, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

All Gardens Great and Small.

This TV show has been omitted from the article. It is a three-episode x 60 minute mini-series featuring Miranda Hart and her mother, a renowned amateur British gardener, Dee Hart-Dyke. Together, they tour some fabulous British gardens that are listed in the National Garden Scheme Handbook (the "yellow book") - from large estate gardens to the compact, ones that open themselves to visitors as a charity-raising event.

Along the way, Ms Dee attempts to help the clueless Ms Miranda to develop a garden at her home.

I saw the show on my local PBS channel in the United States a few years ago.

• Early on in 2017, the show was called Down The Garden Path With Dee Hart Dyke - https://www.housebeautiful.com/uk/garden/news/a1685/miranda-hart-dee-dyke-gardening-show-more4/

• Interview of Dee Hart Dyke by Miranda Hart - https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/entertainment/miranda-hart-and-her-mum-dee-discuss-their-passion-for-plants/

• Abbreviated summary of the episodes - https://ket.org/program/all-gardens-great-and-small/

• Production company - https://kingbert.co.uk/productions/all-gardens-great-and-small/

These seem to be reliable sources.
Thank you for your time, Wordreader (talk) 16:21, 10 June 2023 (UTC)