Talk:Misa Amane
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Misa's Life span
editHey I read that if a shinigami dies saving a human that death gods life span goes to the human. So when Jealous(Gelus) gave his life to save Misa she would then inherit his remaining life span. So couldn't Misa have a huge life span and the fact that she made the eyes deal twice not really hurt her that much? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.10.220.189 (talk) 01:16, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
- It could but without a relible source mentioing that idea first any mention of that would be reverted quickly as original research. --76.71.210.97 (talk) 01:34, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Didn't Rem also die to save Misa? so wouldn't that be something to consider? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.10.220.189 (talk) 23:54, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
- It doesn't matter so much considering she died in the end, and the details of the changing life-span would just be fancrufty (Ironically, Misa was born on Christmas Day and died on Valentine's). You are still somewhat correct. It's all dependant on how much life Gelus had to give her in the first place. As well, the conversion of human days into shinigami - we can't definitely reason it's 1:1. Rem gave it up after the second trade so it would have extended Misa's life and -possibly- covered up what was taken by Ryuk. The original research lies in all those points so it would just be unnecessary to go into it further without proper citations as well as avoiding blind speculation. Fox816 (talk) 00:40, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
- The "numbers" appearing in Shinigami code for life left don't mean anything. Obha and Obata forgot the code, so they just made up the rest of the numbers. WhisperToMe (talk) 03:15, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
- It doesn't matter so much considering she died in the end, and the details of the changing life-span would just be fancrufty (Ironically, Misa was born on Christmas Day and died on Valentine's). You are still somewhat correct. It's all dependant on how much life Gelus had to give her in the first place. As well, the conversion of human days into shinigami - we can't definitely reason it's 1:1. Rem gave it up after the second trade so it would have extended Misa's life and -possibly- covered up what was taken by Ryuk. The original research lies in all those points so it would just be unnecessary to go into it further without proper citations as well as avoiding blind speculation. Fox816 (talk) 00:40, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
The length of her lifespan doesn't matter because Death Note can shorten it. They said that in episode 8 of the anime. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Seghetti (talk • contribs) 12:05, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
Christian?
editThe Christian Symbolism in this series disturbs me greatly. At first I figured that all of the crosses were symbols of execution devices (being crucifixes and what-have-you) but I noticed that Misa has a few catholic images (including a picture of Jesus) in her room in the first page of chapter 29. This seems to be interesting, is it notable? Mavrickindigo (talk) 20:04, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
- Unless it's stated that Misa is part of any particular faith, it's only speculation. As far as the symbolism goes, we can suspect that Christianity was used because it is pointed out as the most followed religion. Islam numbers as second largest then Hinduism, etc... The writers were likely going on popularity. Ryuk even mentions in his first encounter with Light that he wrote the rules in English because it is "the most popular" language in the human world. While in terms of speakers this isn't true since Mandarin leads in that category, English is more widely spoken across the world - instead of concentrated in its homeland which is the case of Mandarin - and is often taught as a second language. However, all this is only original research and speculation unless it can be backed up by credible third-party sources. Fox816 (talk) 21:46, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
It's not about religion. In many gothic lolita ornaments catholic icons are used. Grab a Gothic & Lolita Bible and you'll see. --189.173.102.99 (talk) 15:21, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Misa's suicide
editIn the brazilian community, we were discussing about the possibility of Misa's suicide in the end of the anime version beign caused by Ryuk. What dou you guys think about it or adding it to the article? In the manga, she just dies one year later, but, in the anime, she is seen dying at the same time as Light dies.
Since she was also an user of the Death Note, Ryuk could have written her name on it right after he wrote Light's, near the end, thus killing both Death Note users uncovered by the police.
I know her suicide isn't seen, but it's quite clear it happened. Also, she seemed too calm... almost "controlled" on those scenes. What do you guys think? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.142.58.18 (talk) 13:13, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
- I think it is original research. Unless it is explicitly said or show, then it doesn't belong in the article. --Farix (Talk) 14:05, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
- Friggin' wikinerd. They were asking for other people's opinions, not begging you for permission to add it to the article; learn to read the whole post rather than all but the last sentence.
- On topic, however, I would definitely not rule out the possibility of that happening... As I recall, Ryuk is seen hanging around the human world for a short while during and/or after Light's death, so it's not unlikely that he'd be waiting for the deaths of all users of the Death Note; going further I wouldn't put it beyond his character to have killed her off himself, although it does seem somewhat strange for a shinigami to use a cause of death rather than just writing the name and waiting for the heart attack to occur. --71.74.228.230 (talk) 01:40, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
I don't really think it's worth worrying unless the Death Note producers say she died as you have specified. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.238.62.146 (talk) 12:26, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
- Ehhh, who needs a reliable source like that? All you have to do is cite an unverifiable source at Viz (and why the heck would they be reliable when not even the writer or producer says anything of the sort?) and then you can claim it. 76.22.25.75 (talk) 05:07, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
Reception needs more opinions
editUnder reception, the only review of Misa is one by a guy at IGN. In order for this to be categorised as a real reception I think reviews by other sources is needed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DreamsDreams (talk • contribs) 22:16, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
- If Pepirium's is the only reliable source that gives a review, then yes, it is a real review section.
- If you want more reviews, you need to search reliable sources (Wikipedia:Reliable sources gives guidance on this) for reviews that discuss Misa in particular
- Newspapers are fair game. Anime review magazines like Newtype are fair game
- Most personal websites are NOT okay to cite
- WhisperToMe (talk) 22:30, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
- There's a thing known as "undue weight". A paragraph of "She sucks she sucks she sucks she sucks she sucks she sucks" from one guy at a barely-reliable gaming site, followed by a blink-and-you'll-miss-it "Maybe she doesn't suck" from a different guy at a well-known and unquestionably reliable source isn't balanced in anyone's imagination. 76.22.25.75 (talk) 05:03, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
Wiki Education assignment: The Editing Process
editThis article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 22 August 2022 and 9 December 2022. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Ali01225 (article contribs).
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