Talk:Mischief Reef
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A question
editThe name is quite fitting but where does it come from?
- The currently supplied answer of it being the family name of a German seems idiotic to me. "Mischief" is not a German family name. The story about "Henry Spratly" and the date 1791 isn't attributed to what I would call a reliable source, either. William Avery (talk) 09:47, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
- @ William, I think it is more probable that the reef was named after the clipper ship Mischief, which often sailed between China and U.S.A in the 1850s. I am going through the abstract of her log, of 1854, when, under the command of W.E.Laurence, she made a voyage from Foo Chow Foo (China) to new York, via Anambas. This route would have take her through the Spratlys. At that time, it was common for reefs to be named after vessels that ran aground off them (and thus discovered them), like the Bombay reef. I will research some more, and make an edit only after I am sure. Notthebestusername (talk) 10:27, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Agree that the German name claim sounds really dubious. If his surname is "Mischief", then his middle name is also probably "Danger". --benlisquareT•C•E 10:28, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks guys. The 1791 chronology is off beam too. I'll mark it as dubious for now. William Avery (talk) 10:40, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
- Also, I think the name should be Richard Spratly. He and William (his brother) sailed together. I cannot see references to any person called Henry anywhere. Notthebestusername (talk) 02:13, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks guys. The 1791 chronology is off beam too. I'll mark it as dubious for now. William Avery (talk) 10:40, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Agree that the German name claim sounds really dubious. If his surname is "Mischief", then his middle name is also probably "Danger". --benlisquareT•C•E 10:28, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
- Removed it. 6 years as dubious should be enough to fix it if it wasn't.185.233.255.237 (talk) 12:17, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
Another question.
editWhy avoid the word "occupied" for islands that China has occupied? How many Wumao are editing and writing the pages to be favourable to China? When pages about other reefs like West London Reef are listed as being "occupied" by Vietnam. Why not use the same language for China?
Why does Vietnam get the negative connotation language terms, yet China's cases are glossed over and the page almost tries to imply that China is some peaceful non-occupying entity in the Spratly islands? I think Wikipedia needs to crack down on Wumao, who have clearly been writing and editing a lot of pages to be pro-CCP. 118.210.124.142 (talk) 23:06, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- you can complain about pro china comment, however "wumao" is a racist term. it has been use against other asian improperly and should not be use.2406:3003:2060:3135:DC01:5528:8C6B:D21A (talk) 14:21, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
Very problematic map
editThe map in the current version of this article is extremely inadequate, giving no idea to the reader how close Mischief Reef is to either the Philippines or mainland China. Please fix! 98.123.38.211 (talk) 00:11, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
the PCA website link in the article is dead.
editi include a new link for referrence, if anyone feel like cleaning up the article. https://pcacases.com/web/sendAttach/2086 2406:3003:2060:3135:DC01:5528:8C6B:D21A (talk) 14:19, 10 October 2024 (UTC)