Talk:Murders of Chaney, Goodman, and Schwerner
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The claim that these murders aided the passage of the Civil Rights of 1964 is more of an urban legend than a scientific fact
editThe Senate filibuster which stalled the law's passage ended 11 days before the murders.[1] The Civil Rights Act of 1964 would even pass the Senate on June 19, 1964, [2] the 99th anniversary of the abolition of slavery and two days before the murders as well. It can even be alleged that the law was intended to pass the Senate on present day Juneteenth. By this point in time, the House of Representatives didn't have a filibuster policy which could've stalled it beyond the 4th of July week when it was passed and signed into law by President Lyndon Johnson; signing it two days before the 4th of July was perhaps intended too, with Johnson even hyping the 188th anniversary of July 4, 1776 in the speech where he signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 into law.[[[Special:Contributions/2601:449:4582:B3C0:9873:1E52:E25D:7CE0|2601:449:4582:B3C0:9873:1E52:E25D:7CE0] (talk) 21:43, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- The House didn't pass the bill until July 2, 1964, and President Johnson signed it into law the same day. The FBI says that "[t]he murders galvanized the nation and provided impetus for the passage of the landmark Civil Rights Act of 1964 on July 2".[1] The FBI launched its investigation on June 22, 1964, the day after the activists were reported missing:
By 11:30 p.m., [June 22, 1964,] the FBI had four agents in Neshoba County, all of them from the New Orleans office, with the United Press International news service soon reporting their arrival. ... Over the past decade, the murders of Emmett Till, George Lee, Mack Charles Parker, Herbert Lee, and Medgar Evers—for which there had been no convictions—had been front-page news and were still well known to the Justice Department.
[2] From June 24 to August 3, when the bodies of the murdered men were found, the FBI, the National Guard, and 400 U.S. sailors searched "backroads, swamps, and hollows".[1]The Klansmen [had] bulldozed the three bodies into an earthen dam under 10 tons of dirt and went home, certain that proof of their crime would never be found. But they miscalculated. These civil rights workers were not like others who had been killed in the same cause - two of them were white. And because this is, as Schwerner's widow, Rita, has observed, a society that values some lives more highly than others, Washington politicians and New York journalists suddenly cared a great deal about the missing civil rights workers. The entire nation watched as F.B.I. agents fished a charred station wagon from a swamp, and, acting on a tip, found the three bodies 44 days after the men had disappeared.
[3] The disappearance and massive search were headline news while the House was debating and voting and may have influenced the votes, but I haven't found any other sources one way or the other. There are several RS, however, on the influence on the passing of the Voting Rights Act of 1965. Space4Time3Continuum2x🖖 11:51, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
References
- ^ a b "Mississippi Burning". Federal Bureau of Investigation. Retrieved June 20, 2024.
- ^ "The Presidential Recordings: Lyndon B. Johnson". Texas Monthly. Retrieved June 20, 2024.
- ^ Kornbluth, Jesse (July 23, 1989). "The Struggle Continues". The New York Times. Archived from the original on February 24, 2010. Retrieved June 20, 2024.
Longdale?
editI cannot confirm the existence of "Longdale, Mississippi" that is mentioned as the location of the burned Mt. Zion Methodist Church. There is no place by that name in Neshoba County or the four neighboring counties. (I also searched for "Langdale.") A wider web search has not turned up a Longdale or Langdale anywhere in Mississippi. Published articles about the murders do not mention Longdale either. If such a place existed, we need to document the fact and update the article Neshoba County, Mississippi. — ℜob C. alias ALAROB 05:36, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
So far the only reference I have found to Longdale is on this web page attributed to the Arkansas Delta Truth and Justice Center. The website (crmvet.org) is by Bay Area Veterans of the Civil Rights Movement. — ℜob C. alias ALAROB 22:54, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
Antisemitism
edit@User:XTheBedrockX The article doesn't currently mention the role that antisemitism played in these murders. A quick Google search shows that the Klan referred to Schwerner as "the Jew-boy with the beard". Do you know of any other sources or information? Thank you. 07:47, 31 October 2024 (UTC) Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 07:47, 31 October 2024 (UTC)