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"envenomings" is not a term used for spiders

Latest comment: 8 years ago4 comments2 people in discussion

I am Re-posting this talk note in its own new section and adding to it.

In the second paragraph: "however, recorded envenomings by this spider are rare." This sounds awkward and odd. I have never seen the word "envenomings" used when referring to spider bites. Ever. In my opinion, and from 20 years of experience, it should be "envenomations", or even just simply "bites".

I thought perhaps this was a UK or AU usage for the word, but I checked the 2 references for this section (#4 & #5) and that term is not used. #5 uses the term "envenomation" twice. Considering this is an Australian species, I checked several other AU based sites with info on Mouse Spiders and did not find the word "envenoming" used anywhere.

I think it would be wise to change the sentence to this: "however, recorded bites by this spider are rare, despite the abundance of some species amid human habitation." (or at the very least, change "envenomings" to "bites" in the existing text.)

Using the term "envenomations" would be fine, but it appears that some bites do not result in envenomation at all, meaning no venom is transferred to the victim, they are dry bites. Therefore, saying that people rarely get bitten by these spiders, (even though many are found in human populated areas) it is actually more informative. The Spider Chick (talk) 06:47, 22 October 2016 (UTC)(talk) 22:12, 10 September 2016 (UTC)Reply

The same word, "envenomings" is used further in the article, under the heading Medical Significance: "However, serious envenomings are relatively rare; most mouse spider bites documented in the medical literature...". I suggest that "envenomings" be changed to "envenomations" in this sentence as well, for all the same reasons I've noted above. --The Spider Chick (talk) 06:47, 22 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

If I don't see any feedback on this in the next month, I will go ahead and figure out how to make these proposed changes directly to the article and will do it myself. --The Spider Chick (talk) 06:54, 22 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

@The Spider Chick: see this article. I think that "envenoming" is used in some more scientific/technical publications, but this is a general encyclopedia, so go ahead and make the changes you suggest. Peter coxhead (talk) 08:55, 22 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

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