Talk:Stoicism
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Removing uncited claims and original research
editThere's a whole lot in this article that isn't supported by any secondary sources. It seems as if some editors may have read the extant works on Stoicism and arrived at their own original conclusions. I'm going through the article and removing anything that is not supported by a secondary, scholarly source. There are no shortage of academic sources covering Stoicism, we should have an article that represents the academic consensus rather than risk introducing some new age interpretations or self-help literature.
This article has a long way to go to meet the good article criteria despite being marked as such - the Stoics made highly structured divisions of their philosophy into Logic, Physics, and Ethics with highly structured subdivisions of each, this is nowhere to be found on this article. There's also almost no history of the movement and how it developed, or discussion of any of the influences it exerted over medieval or modern philosophy. - car chasm (talk) 20:52, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
- I appreciate the transformation of this article by your hand. 182.239.146.18 (talk) 14:00, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
Christian Misrepresentation
editThe section referencing influence on Christianity claims both systems assert fundamental human depravity. That isn't true of Stoicism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:8C0:980:E520:949E:36AD:30D4:9503 (talk) 20:18, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
Acceptance of Anaxagoras' claim
editAs a subtopic in the categories section, there is a claim that "stoics accept the anaxagoras notion that when an object becomes red, it is because an universal redness has entered the body". I would doubt that claim considering that stoics themselves deny the existence of most universals as bodies (as a warning, i am not a stoic expert, so maybe i'm wrong in this claim, but it seems contradictory). Also, the claim is unlinked, so I would appreciate if someone links it to the direct source (which I couldn't find too, since the main sources never say this, though I couldn't read all the sources so maybe the source is there somewhere. Any way, it would be nice to link it). 181.97.174.141 (talk) 16:12, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
GA concerns
editI am concerned that this article no longer meets the good article criteria. Some of my concerns are listed below:
- There is uncited text throughout the article.
- There are sources listed in "Further reading" that are not used as inline citations. These should be used as-such or removed.
Is anyone willing to fix up this article, or should it be nominated to WP:GAR? Z1720 (talk) 08:48, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
GA Reassessment
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- Result pending
There is uncited text in the article, including entire paragraphs. There are several sources listed in "Further reading" and some sections that are only one paragraph long: this makes me think that the article might not cover all major aspects of the topic, but would appreciate if a subject-matter expert can comment on that concern. Z1720 (talk) 17:04, 27 October 2024 (UTC)