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Talk:Hypnosis
editHi. Please look at Talk:Hypnosis. I believe that I have clarified your question; and, as well, the article seems better for it (just follow the link from my answer to the article). Lindsay658 10:10, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi.Please look at Talk:NLP and science re the NLP articles. Your contributions as an editor are welcome but please read the main NLP site's talk and history first. Fainites 18:01, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
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- Belated reply, because I've only spotted this comment recently... I've got no idea whatsoever what this "warning" refers to. I've definitely never deliberately vandalised an entry. I'm guessing maybe there's some kind of mix up. HypnoSynthesis (talk) 16:19, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Your edit to Talk:Paul McKenna/Archive1 on April 27, 2007
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HypnoSynthesis, the talk page archive was blanked per an WP:OTRS request. I blanked the AMA case you created as well; I hope that the issues resolve themselves and I suggest, unless further consideration is necessary, we drop the issue. --Iamunknown 12:21, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
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Barnstar
editThe Exceptional Newcomer Award | ||
Have a barnstar! You replaced some sections I removed, but with the happy addition of references that addressed the concerns I had. That's good, sources are the best, keep it up! WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules:simple/complex 02:38, 6 January 2009 (UTC) |
Based on a couple comments on your page I'm a bit hesitant about the barnstar, but purely based on the quality of your recent contributions I'm taking the risk. Note a couple changes I made here. A couple links you might find useful:
- MOS:CAPS - only proper names and first letters in a sentence should be capitalized, particularly in section titles. Also note that wikilinks are case sensitive (the software will work around [[Nicholas Spanos]] but not {{main|Nicholas spanos}} - that's why I removed the initial {{main|Hypnotic Susceptibility}}, I thought the article didn't exist which was totally my bad)
- WP:CIT - citation templates, which I didn't have time to add, but are good. The ref name tags might also be helpful for duplicate references
- WP:OVERLINK - a wikilink should appear once, perhaps twice, at most three times in a lengthy article - James Braid shouldn't be linked every time.
- WP:QUOTE and WP:SS - you seem to be adding a lot of lengthy quotes to pages. Generally summaries are better choices, with the source of the quote being appended as a reference.
- WP:NPOV and WP:OR - one should be wary of statements that appear to advance a certain position, summarize or synthesize information to come to a novel conclusion not in a source.
- WP:HEAD - basically don't repeat the page title or previous section headings in sub-headings.
- User:WLU/Generic sandbox - an essay I wrote for newcomers. I think it's funny and useful, others have agreed with me.
Now, here's my qualifier - it's WAY harder to add text than it is to adjust it. I've adjusted, but you added. You did the heavy lifting, I dusted underneath. So, good work! Keep it up! Be sure to discuss edits calmly and a source will always be worth a thousand words in making a point! WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules:simple/complex 02:38, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks! I'm just muddling my way through. I started fixing some things I thought needed attention and kind of got sucked into making more and more changes. I need to brush up on the rules and how to do referencing, etc., but I'm learning a lot of stuff as I go, and hopefully not doing anything too controversial. As for the messages above. I have absolutely no idea whatsoever what the one about vandalism is about. All I can say about that is that I have absolutely definitely never done anything which I thought was vandalism. I can only assume I must have naively made an edit that someone else found objectionable -but I don't know what it was. As for the thing about McKenna. That was because I posted a comment to a Talk page questioning whether we should update the article with information about a news story. I was trying not to post anything controversial; my honest view is that they massively over-reacted to something which I doubt anyone else would find objectionable. I immediately deleted the comment anyway, but it was archived and came up on searches, so I had to get help removing it permanently. HypnoSynthesis (talk) 11:36, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, wikipedia sucks you in. If have any questions, feel free to ask me and I'll do my best to help (I'm not perfect, but I like to think I know my way around moderately well and I'm usually here pretty much every day). You could also ask questions at the Help desk, or add the template {{helpme}} to your talk page along with a question. WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules:simple/complex 13:37, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks! I'm just muddling my way through. I started fixing some things I thought needed attention and kind of got sucked into making more and more changes. I need to brush up on the rules and how to do referencing, etc., but I'm learning a lot of stuff as I go, and hopefully not doing anything too controversial. As for the messages above. I have absolutely no idea whatsoever what the one about vandalism is about. All I can say about that is that I have absolutely definitely never done anything which I thought was vandalism. I can only assume I must have naively made an edit that someone else found objectionable -but I don't know what it was. As for the thing about McKenna. That was because I posted a comment to a Talk page questioning whether we should update the article with information about a news story. I was trying not to post anything controversial; my honest view is that they massively over-reacted to something which I doubt anyone else would find objectionable. I immediately deleted the comment anyway, but it was archived and came up on searches, so I had to get help removing it permanently. HypnoSynthesis (talk) 11:36, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Correction of serious misinformation in James Braid article
editHi, I have requested that the title for the article on James Braid be changed from the inappropriate, misleading, and historically incorrect current title of James Braid (physician) to the appropriate and historically correct title of James Braid (surgeon).
On the basis that you have contributed to the current article in some way, I thought that you should know that the article will be moving within 7 days from James Braid (physician) to the appropriate and correct title of James Braid (surgeon) unless there is widespread, informed, and fact-based objections.
It would be helpful if you could express your support for the correction of what seems to have been, originally, an inadvertent error, at site of the discussion of proposal. Thanks, in anticipation . . . Lindsay658 (talk) 09:36, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Platonic Definitions
editHi, concerning this source you added, can you give some detail on it? I have not heard of it. Apart from getting the sourcing clear, I would also like to consider whether it should be mentioned after or before Aristotle.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 11:25, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
Hi,
No problem. What sort of information are you after? You can find out more pretty easily just from a search online. There's actually a very brief page already on Wikipedia for it...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_(Plato)
It was attributed to Plato but is believed to have been written by Speusippus or some of Plato's other early followers in the Academy. It's included in collections of Platonic writings. HypnoSynthesis (talk) 16:05, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
- Ok, I see you added the wikilink, which helps.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 11:37, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
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editHello, and welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate your contributions; however, it appears you may have written a Wikipedia article, or a draft for a Wikipedia article, about yourself. Creating an autobiography is strongly discouraged – please see our guideline on writing autobiographies. If you create such an article, it may be deleted. If what you have done in life is genuinely notable and can be verified according to our policy for articles about living people, someone else will probably create an article about you sooner or later (see Wikipedians with articles). If you wish to add to or change an existing article about yourself, you are welcome to propose the changes by visiting the article's talk page. Please understand that this is an encyclopedia and not a personal web space or social networking site. If your article has already been deleted, please see: Why was the page I created deleted?, and if you feel the deletion was an error, please discuss this with the deleting administrator. Thank you. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:46, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
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editYou have an obvious conflict of interest, please don't write about yourself, your friends or relatives and read the guidance below:
- When you write about a person, you must provide independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that they meet the notability guidelines. Sources that are not acceptable include those linked to the person or an associated organisation, press releases, YouTube, IMDB, social media and other sites that can be self-edited, blogs, websites of unknown or non-reliable provenance, and sites that are just reporting what the person claims or interviewing them. Note that references should be in-line so we can tell what fact each is supporting, and should not be bare urls.
- Let's look at the sources. Even at a quick glance, seven are his own books, and four are interviews with him, clearly not independent third-party sources. We don't want to know what he says about himself, and it's difficult to see how referencing his own books can establish anything other than that he wrote them. Several other refs on closer examination also turn out to be quoting him, or just reviewing his books. Any notability doesn't depend on what people think of his books, see the criteria.
- Even if we ignore the lack of proper sources, it's not clear that he meets the notability criteria we need. He's written some books and done some research, neither of those establish notability for academics.
- You must write in a non-promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic, with verifiable facts, not opinions or reviews. You say that you couldn't see any spamlinks. Try this, we have a price and BUY THIS BOOK. Since his own books can't possibly be independent third-party sources, it's pretty clear that using them and reviews of them as references has little purpose other than to promote them.
- There shouldn't be any url links in the article, only in the "References" or "External links" sections.
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Before attempting to write an article again, please make sure that the topic meets the notability criteria linked above, and check that you can find independent third party sources. You must also reply to the COI request above. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 09:45, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for your clarification. My understanding from reading the policies and discussions with other editors is that it is not prohibited for someone to post an entry about themselves on Wikipedia, although it's discouraged. So that in itself wouldn't be a legitimate reason for deletion of the page, is that correct?
- Regarding the sources, another editor confirmed that there were sufficient high-quality independent sources in the article. Would the correct course of action not be for you to remove sources you considered unsuitable therefore rather than deleting the page?
- In terms of notability in general, obviously I have to allow others to be the judge of that, but I'm the author of six books with three major publishers, the most recent of which was a best seller in the US and has been translated into fifteen languages. My work's been covered many times in mainstream media, e.g., by the BBC, Wall Street Journal, Forbes, etc. If that doesn't meet the criteria, fair enough, but it's not the case that there's no justification whatsoever for the page meeting Wikipedia's criteria - there were sources cited in the article that were not as you described.
- What I would have suggested is that rather than delete the page you flagged up the sources and questionable, etc., and allowed other editors to comment, as there's already been quite a lot of input from at least one other editor on the page and he confirmed that it met Wikipedia's criteria. So why not state your objections to his rationale, for example, and allow him and others to reply rather than just deleting the page? Thanks. HypnoSynthesis (talk) 13:14, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
- It's only by chance I came back to this page, if you want me to know that you have replied here, start the message with my username,
Jimfbleak and sign it in the same edit.
- Writing about your self is discouraged, but not banned, as you correctly state, but you must be transparent and put on your user page that you have a conflict of interest when writing on this topic. Concealing a COI is not permitted.
- I believe Kvng made an error in accepting this draft, not least because biographies must have independent third party sources, I've pinged so they know and can comment if they wish.
- So many of your refs were not independent third-party sources, or were reviews, that there would have been nothing intelligible left if I'd removed the refs and the text they claimed to support.
- I've not said that you are not notable, but to establish that we need proper sources, not what you say about yourself. I deleted the article because it seems to have little purpose other that to promote your books. Why do we have links to reviews of your books? The article is about you, not them, and, even for books, notability depends on factors other than what people think of them. As I said, some of the pages were pretty promotional as well. Why didn't you just put a list of your books in a Publications section, as we do for other authors (see Emma Louisa Turner for example)?
- You talk about discussion but the speedy deletion nominator, experienced admin RoySmith felt that it was blatant enough to merit immediate deletion, and so do I.
- To take another example, the DEFRA document confirms that you were a co-author of the paper, but we also have a link to the paper itself, which doesn't confirm that and is a primary source that shouldn't be used anyway. What we don't have is a genuinely independent document, without you as an author, telling us why that report matters and why it helps make you notable.
- You have to realise that if you write about yourself, you must get it right; proper sources, no links to your own books and the like. You can, of course, try again if you wish. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:52, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
- Jimfbleak, what article are we talking about? ~Kvng (talk) 15:56, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
- Kvng, Donald Robertson (psychotherapist), which started out as Draft:Donald Robertson (writer). -- RoySmith (talk) 16:32, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
- Jimfbleak Well, for what it's worth, I only created this page in the first place because a bunch of people had asked me why there wasn't already one and suggested there should be. And quite a lot of work went into vetting the sources already so it would be a shame just to delete it without discussion. Otherwise, though, it's not a big deal. I certainly never intended it to promote my books. (Again, for what it's worth, it would not actually benefit me in any significant way to do that - I'd probably only sell a handful more copies!) In any case, rather than speculate about my motivation, I think it would be best to focus on the more objective question of whether or not the evidence meets Wikipedia's criteria. My understanding is, also, that the Wikipedia policies do not prohibit the use of book reviews in reputable sources (e.g., Wall Street Journal) to establish notability - is that not correct, though? The reason for citing the book reviews was that some of them contained independent third-party information from credible sources about my life and career. Likewise, are all interviews considered unreliable? My understanding was that if an interview was published in a credible newspaper or magazine, such as Forbes or the Globe and Mail, that it was potentially considered a credible source for the purposes of Wikipedia - is that not correct? HypnoSynthesis (talk) 16:47, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
- HypnoSynthesis, Interviews are problematic, WP:Interviews explains why. Forbes is a complicated case; articles written by Forbes staff are generally considered to be WP:RS, but articles under the "contributed" banner are not. See WP:FORBES and WP:FORBESCON. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:58, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
- To give another example of why I think this might arguably have been a bit of an over-zealous deletion, I think you cited Publisher's Weekly as being a spam site but it's actually one of the best-known trade magazines for the publishing industry, and regarded very highly as a publication. HypnoSynthesis (talk) 17:01, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
- HypnoSynthesis, Interviews are problematic, WP:Interviews explains why. Forbes is a complicated case; articles written by Forbes staff are generally considered to be WP:RS, but articles under the "contributed" banner are not. See WP:FORBES and WP:FORBESCON. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:58, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
- The article was deleted under WP:G11 because Jimfbleak judged it to be unambiguous and exclusively promotional. I would not have accepted it if I thought that was the case. It is possible I made a mistake. Since the content is now deleted, I am unable to reassess. ~Kvng (talk) 17:36, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
- I think you miss the point with PW, I'm not criticising it as a reliable source if used appropriately, the problem here was that you shouldn't be be using it at all. Books don't need references, and your notability doesn't depend on what people think of your books per se, so to link to a site containing a positive review, the price, and BUY THIS BOOK, even if not intentional spam, is inadvisable. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 08:54, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
- Jimfbleak Well, for what it's worth, I only created this page in the first place because a bunch of people had asked me why there wasn't already one and suggested there should be. And quite a lot of work went into vetting the sources already so it would be a shame just to delete it without discussion. Otherwise, though, it's not a big deal. I certainly never intended it to promote my books. (Again, for what it's worth, it would not actually benefit me in any significant way to do that - I'd probably only sell a handful more copies!) In any case, rather than speculate about my motivation, I think it would be best to focus on the more objective question of whether or not the evidence meets Wikipedia's criteria. My understanding is, also, that the Wikipedia policies do not prohibit the use of book reviews in reputable sources (e.g., Wall Street Journal) to establish notability - is that not correct, though? The reason for citing the book reviews was that some of them contained independent third-party information from credible sources about my life and career. Likewise, are all interviews considered unreliable? My understanding was that if an interview was published in a credible newspaper or magazine, such as Forbes or the Globe and Mail, that it was potentially considered a credible source for the purposes of Wikipedia - is that not correct? HypnoSynthesis (talk) 16:47, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
- Kvng, Donald Robertson (psychotherapist), which started out as Draft:Donald Robertson (writer). -- RoySmith (talk) 16:32, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
- Jimfbleak, what article are we talking about? ~Kvng (talk) 15:56, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
Talk:Stoicism
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