Talk:Modern primitive

I feel that the third paragraph of this article deserves inspection, with an eye towards improved clarity and typography "Now how they have been they have been tweaked to work in this culture is new.", neutrality and verifiability "rituals may be done in groups of people or individually, but they are always knowledgeable about it and not trying something new until the research has been done", and cross referencing, (what is an Ibitoe?) I lack experience and motivation to do this myself at this time, and so refer it to the general editing community.

developed nations?

Are they really only exist in developed countries? --Dennis714 (talk) 13:04, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

that's what puts the "modern" in "modern primitive" -- to make a distinction between participants in these rituals between those from cultures that created them and those that are appropriating them —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.20.114.214 (talk) 07:05, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Incorrectly Classified

Due to the style similarities amongst these subcultures, modern primitives are often lumped together with alternative fashionistas, sexual fetishists and body modification aficionados. This can be very frustrating for MPs as their activities get stereotyped as being motivated by sexual deviance, youthful rebellion and a desire to shock others.

Not every MP has "the look" or engages in body modification. Those are just the most visible, a subculture within a subculture. "Heavily tattooed and modified" does not equal "modern primitive". Thus, classifying this article within the "Fashion" and "Body Modification categories is misleading, and I'm sure many MPs would find it disrespectful.

I would never be recognized walking down the street, yet I belong to a tribe and practice the alteration of my mental states through the induction of mental extremes (pain, sensory deprivation, fasting, ritual ecstacy, etc.).

At the heart of modern primitivism is the belief that these practices allow for transcendental spiritual experiences. Most MPs use this spiritual practice as a self growth tool. It allows for intense catharsis, aiding the release of old emotions and patterns. At the same time it is a great tool for deliberately imprinting healthier new patterns and states of being onto the psyche.

Little research has been done on MPs. We tend to be hard to find, mostly intentionally. That will make this article hard to verify. I don't know that I can offer any citations to support my belief that this article should be reclassified under the Spirituality category, so I am submitting this comment to the talk page before taking action.

Bonnieshull (talk) 00:12, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

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