Talk:Moderna COVID-19 vaccine

Latest comment: 1 year ago by 31.4.149.90 in topic Journal publications

Journal publications

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I've reverted good faith edits by @Myosci that mention lack of peer-reviewed scientific publications because I don't think they're necessary in the article. The data about the bivalent vaccines was reviewed by regulatory bodies, the ACIP, and CDC. See slides. While the data isn't in a journal yet, it was made public and reviewed by experts. I'm reverting similar edits on the Pfizer article. ScienceFlyer (talk) 02:21, 15 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

@ScienceFlyer I may be mistaken but I was unaware that the raw data is public, only a truncated report of the trial along with its purported results. As we've seen from the Pfizer trial scandal covered by the British Medical Journal, IMO it's far to say that without full, unedited, (anonymised) participant-level data, these reports can only be trusted as far as the company itself can be trusted. A global encyclopedia should reflect global scientific consensus, not simply that of US regulatory bodies. Furthermore, regulatory bodies worldwide, including those of the USA, have a long history of bad decisions regarding treatment approval and, unfortunately, corruption. Oxycodone was and is quite a famous fiasco in the USA, I believe, which incidentally may also have been avoided if the trial data had been more transparent. Point being, a lack of peer-reviewed raw data is absolutely relevant and should be given its due weight. Not only from an encyclopedic point of view, but an ethical one. For better or for worse, people make medical decisions on the basis of the information contained within pages such as this, and thus should be informed if the safety is If I am mistaken and the full raw data has been released, I would greatly appreciate if you could provide a source. Many thanks. 31.4.149.90 (talk) 20:42, 8 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
I just realised that "corruption" is something that should be backed with a respected medical source to avoid sounding too quacky, so here is a link - https://www.bmj.com/content/377/bmj.o1538 - I would also like to add that I understand that this space is more to discuss the article and improvements to it, rather than the subject matter itself. However I feel that the approval of a regulatory agency does not warrant the removal of pertinent information about the lack of peer-reviewed raw data, unless I am, of course, mistaken and it has been released in full and peer-reviewed. 31.4.149.90 (talk) 20:53, 8 February 2023 (UTC)Reply