Talk:Mohammad Abdullah (academic)
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edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: page moved. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:10, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
Requested move 3 March 2019
editProfessor Mohammad Abdullah (Politician) → Mohammad Abdullah (academic) – Professor Mohammad Abdullah (Politician) violates WP:NCBIO and MOS:CREDENTIAL by starting the title of a biographical article with their professional title, violates WP:NCPDAB by capitalizing the parenthetical disambiguation, and violates WP:ATDAB by using two forms of disambiguation instead of only as much additional detail as necessary.
Mohammad Abdullah is a DAB page. An attempt was made to use natural disambiguation with the title Mohammad Ali Abdullah, "Ali" supposedly being a family nickname, but no reliable published source has been cited for it. He is notable as a politician, but Mohammad Abdullah (politician) is already used for a different Bangladeshi politician.
One possibility would be to add the district from which he was elected as a further disambiguation: Mohammad Abdullah (Chandpur politician). However, in reliable sources that mention both politicians (such as parliament's list of all members) he is usually distinguished from the other by the word "professor". This suggests that Mohammad Abdullah (professor) or Mohammad Abdullah (academic) would best satisfy the criteria of recognizability, naturalness, precision, and conciseness. Of the two words, it's more common on Wikipedia to use the disambiguator (academic), but I have no objection to (professor) if that is thought better.
I moved an earlier bad name, Professor Mohammad Abdullah (Ali), to Mohammad Abdullah (academic) to comply with the naming conventions. But editor Professor Mohammad Abdullah moved it again to Professor Mohammad Abdullah (Politician), so disagreement with any move is expected from that quarter. They subsequently created a content fork with trivial history at Mohammad Abdullah (academic), but it is up for speedy deletion under A10, which would make way for this requested move. Worldbruce (talk) 14:22, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
- That looks like the best way to handle this. I added a source to Mohammad Abdullah (academic) without realising that it was a duplicate article, so this should be kept, as it is the original, and the title Mohammad Abdullah (academic) is as good as any. In response to the attempt to include "professor" in the title I would note that we have articles entitled Muhammad and Jesus, not "the prophet Muhammad" and "Jesus Christ", so unless the professor wants to make his title seem more important than theirs we should omit the word from our title. Phil Bridger (talk) 14:39, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
Sources
editThe sources establish notability as a former MP in Bangladesh, but fall far short of documenting his career. (Many of those provided were either links to Wikipedia or about his board memberships and his wife; I have covered those that remain with the removal of that text, so that it is easier to assess what they are.) Professor Mohammad Abdullah has continued the edit war by removing the BLP sources tag, but I consider it very much needed. One of the sources is not in English; I suspect there may be other similar press sources to round out all three of his terms and the fourth time he stood as a candidate—and possibly some part of his academic career—and we need to advertise that we welcome anyone who is able to search for such, as well as alert readers that his career is not fully documented in the article. Yngvadottir (talk) 15:27, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
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