Talk:Mohammad Ali Bogra

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Mohammad Ali Bogra

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Nearly all references, citations and sources prefer to call Mohammad Ali by his name in full, Mohammad Ali Bogra. Like other Zamindars in Indian subcontinent he was never entitled the title of prince (of bogra). The Nawab Estate was also abolished in 1952 under the East Bengal Estate Acquisition and Tenancy Act (1950). People Who Have Absolutely No Idea What Peerage; Title and Order of precedence are, please use Find sources buttons above and of course wikipedia link. Then you may start RfC---Samudrakula (talk) 11:39, 1 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

Zamindars did not enjoy titles. But all Nawab and Maharaja families- estates and princely states- did. And yes titles were abolished in 1952. But what title do you exactly see in Mohammad Ali of Bogra? It's a name, added with an ancestral town lineage. As I said, this is how he spelled it, and its verified by his son. I find several sources, including the John F Kennedy Library, which uses Mohammad Ali (Bogra).--Rainmaker23 (talk) 18:26, 1 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

I think you should learn more about Royal and noble ranks. see Wikipedia:Naming conventions (royalty and nobility)

Seriously, Can't you see the difference between

Mohammad Ali Bogra (surname: Ali Bogra; Bogra added to honor his ancestral home district)
Mohammad Ali of Bogra (Ali of Bogra or XY of Bogra: a Title that may be inherited by all legitimate heirs; only appropriate for a hereditary prince or reigning monarch, not for aristocrat or Zamindar(certainly many zamindars also titled as nawab))

Once again, tell me the difference between Maud of Wales (a royal title) and Jimmy Wales (a good surname). Families like the Dhaka Nawab Family, the Prithimpassa Family, Singranatore Family never use such Tittles. Just because his family claim, we cannot ignore government documents, encyclopedia and Wikipedia:Naming conventions.——Samudrakula (talk) 21:12, 1 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

How was the Dhaka Nawab Family not entitled to use the term Nawab? I think you're a terrible POV pusher. These families were legal entities under British rule, which enjoyed the privilege of titles including Nawab, Nawab Begum, Nawabzada, Shahebzada etc. In any case, Mohammad Ali of Bogra is not a royal title. Its a commoner name for someone associated with the former aristocracy. His surname was Ali.

And stop pointing to naming conventions you understand nothing about. Estates were legal aristocratic entities during the Raj and different from Zamindar families.--Rainmaker23 (talk) 00:15, 2 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

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