Talk:Molka

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Celebrities involved in Molka

The infobox Celebrities involved in Molka contains two perpetrators and one victim of this crime. While, yes, technically being a victim is being involved, the grouping makes it sound as though the victim was also a perpetrator. The phrasing should be changed immediately. 2603:8081:2603:E100:E0F5:A365:B3DE:2545 (talk) 04:29, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

Raising a question of bias

Spycam crimes in Korea do not occur much compared to other countries, however, the high rate of prosecution leads to a statistical illusion. In Korea, Twitter is NOT a major social networking site and the controversy on Twitter cannot be called a major controversy in Korea. the protests mentioned in this article were organized by the Korean feminist extremist forum, Womad. this article even quoted an article from the organizers about the number of participants in the demonstration.

This article, which was written by appealing only to emotions without clear grounds, is clearly wrong and therefore requires deletion of this article.

• Supporting data

https://n.news.naver.com/mnews/article/032/0003025692 - The result of detecting Spy Cam by the Seoul Metropolitan Government has been "zero" for three years.

https://womad.life - Women's supremacy, male hate community(their slogan)

https://www1.president.go.kr/articles/3701 - President Moon of Korea "Statistics show that female criminals are less punished than male criminals, so the term "biased investigation" is not right."

https://n.news.naver.com/mnews/article/022/0003334722 - Hosted use of male-hating terms and inflating the number of participants.

https://m.biz.chosun.com/svc/article.html?contid=2020012700345&utm_source=undefined&utm_medium=unknown&utm_campaign=biz - #5 on Twitter with 5.3% utilization

I'd appreciate it if you could tell me what's wrong or what needs to be added. 윤파란 (talk) 02:38, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

You are welcome to provide reliable sources that actually state these viewpoints, but all I see is your own biased opinion and deletion of sourced material. Wikipedia is not a platform for original research Evaders99 (talk) 00:29, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

He doesn't particularly seem that interested in engaging in talk, but twitter popularity is very low in Korea [1], [2], I would hardly rely on anything trending on it as evidence that it's a hot topic in Korea. While it's popularity is rising a bit, at the end of 2017 it didn't even rank in the top 10 [3]. Western media has a bit of a bias when it comes to Asian news. They tend to rely on statements from special interest groups as fact and do little independent research on their own.--125.129.16.99 (talk) 02:13, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

You are continuing to remove sourced material and assert that Twitter is unimportant. But nothing is sourced to sustain this viewpoint. Evaders99 (talk) 01:16, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

On the contrary, you need to explain sufficiently and convincingly that Twitter is important, because Twitter is rarely used in Korea. I can attach popular articles critical of the feminist from an Internet forum that has more users and has more ripple effects than Twitter(In Korea) to this article, but I don't do that because it's not an ordinary Korean's point of view. Twitter is like a trash can where only the most extreme arguments are gathered in Korea.--윤파란 (talk) 19:02, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

More recent sources

• Kwak Yeon-soo (10 March 2022). "Filmmaker zooms in on Korea's 'spycam' epidemic, woeful state of women's rights". The Korean Times. Archived from the original on 29 March 2022. Retrieved 6 September 2022.
• Amy Gunia (7 March 2022). "'It Breaks My Heart.' Confronting the Traumatic Impact of South Korea's Spycam Problem on Women". Archived from the original on 29 March 2022. Retrieved 6 September 2022.

mileading sources

I've noticed that the whole page is written on a often vague and loose definition of these "spy cameras", aggregating numbers of reported crimes that contain completelly different definitions. As some sources point out, in Korea any person can report a person taking a picture of them in *public places* and *fully clothed* if they feel "ashamed". This is grouped by some sources with the specific scandals of hidden cameras in an hotel, the burning sun scandal etc

Some of the sources make this grouping more implici than others, which is a big problem. I don't know how to fix it, maybe start rephrasing and nuancing some statemts by pointing out discrepancy of the sources grouping, maybe finding new more developed sources. I am interested to see what others think. Cinemaandpolitics (talk) 21:36, 31 July 2024 (UTC)