Talk:Molly Millions

Cyborg?

I'm not sure I'd call Molly a "cyborg". Even though, according to the cyborg entry, 'Generally, the term "cyborg" is used to refer to a man or woman with bionic, or robotic, implants.', it seems to imply more machine than person. Molly has three augmentations, mirrored lenses over her eye sockets (they include a time readout, do they enhance vision as well?), extensible blades under her fingernails, and enhanced (faster) reflexes. She is certainly augmented, but is she a "cyborg"? Doggo

The definition in the cyborg article is wide enough to include persons with a third of the implants Molly Millions had.--AlainV 02:52, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

I would have to agree that cyborg is not an ideal description, but will probably do until a better one comes along. The eye implants had a time readout as well as image amplification ( Referenced for starters in Neuromancer )Angelstorm

The problem is with the "consensus" definition in the Wikipedia article on cyborgs. In print dictionaries and encyclopedias available in any library the definition of cyborg refers to men and woman with any number of mechanical or electronic implants, so Molly Millions and the term fit well together. --AlainV 03:09, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

The term "artificially augmented human" seems like a better choice since cyborg suggests a machine with biological parts rather than the other way around. Kriegaffe 16:19, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

I've always taken Miss Millions to have muscle augmentation [especially after she kicks that man through the door, in Mona Lisa Overdrive [I think it is]].

Some sort of targeting link might be possible, too.

193.243.227.1 11:43, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

After watching Innocence again recently I would agree that Moll is a prototypical cyborg. Her eyesight includes infrared vision (in MLD she tells Slick Henry she can see him in the dark), her reflexes are jumped up, and the blades definitely qualify as "robotic implants". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.30.52.157 (talk) 14:03, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

References in other films

Molly is thought to have strongly influenced the portrayal of the character 'Trinity' in the original film of the Matrix Trilogy.

Molly might be the woman that leaves Johnny at the beginning of the movie 'Johnny Mnemonic', as she accounts for this while briefly telling Case about Johnny in the neuromancer.

Er no...

Molly relates to Case how she was living with Johnny when the humble assassin came and killed Johnny in their apartment.

In truth, the books have little to do with the film, apart from teh vague basics.

82.16.19.50 (talk) 14:09, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Cheat code

For some reason, "sally shears" is a common cheat code in computer games. Added to trivia, it was removed lacking citations. World of Warcraft cheat codes Supreme Commander Cheat Codes In view of common function of revealing an entire map suggest "her eye sockets are in fact sealed with vision-enhancing mirrored lenses" is probably the reason the term was chosen by the programmers. Graldensblud 22:00, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

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Augmentations

It's currently stated in the article that "Her sensory input, metabolism and reflexes are also artificially heightened by means of electronic implants and exotic forms of advanced surgeries and other medical procedures" ^{(emphasis added)} -- Should this perhaps be clarified and/or expanded a little?

I haven't read Johnny Mnemonic or Mona Lisa Overdrive, but I seem to recall her using an awful lot of chemical painkillers, stimulants, et cetera in Neuromancer ('an awful lot' defined as several dermal patches of multiple types each at once, with the implication given that a single 'button' dermal patch of the types she was using would be ambulance/EMT/military-type dosage). I could be remembering/interpreting wrong, but I got the impression that the heavy drug use was where at least most (possibly all) of her augmented strength and endurance came from.

Actually, on second thought, I suppose that might not qualify as 'augmentation' in the sense intended, even though their use seems to be a continuous / recurring thing at any 'on the job' point. Perhaps it would go under some other section, perhaps not. 184.14.182.39 (talk) 00:39, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

In Neuromancer, her heavy use of painkillers is because her leg is broken early in the operation to retrieve/steal the Dixie Flatline's personality construct from Sense/Net. Throughout the book, she appears to be contemptuous of Case's use of recreational drugs, and indifferent to the doctoring of his pancreas by Armitage's surgeons (without Case's permission) to prevent some narcotic substances from having any effect on him. I think she only uses drugs as a professional necessity. 89.242.17.136 (talk) 14:51, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

See Also ?

I don't understand the point of this section. The other characters listed may have been inspired but if so this should be mentioned with citations. Otherwise this is just a list of other strong female characters in Sci Fi. Why not add Ripley, or Sarah Connor, etc ? Kegon (talk) 10:05, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

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Notability

Gibson is a major writer and some of his work and even characters have gotten significant analysis. But for this one I do see lots of google hits, but each is only a mention in passing, ex: [1], [2], [3], [4] or a repetition of a plot summary with no anaysis like [5]. I do see quite a bit of such minor references, and it is plausible we could find something if we look together. I would be happy to withdraw this, if we can find anything that is in-depth and reliable. I did find one source that's in-depth, btw (Feminist Duality of Molly Millions in Gibson's Neuromancer but it seems to be a non-peer reviewed paper written by a graduate student, perhaps for a regular class assignment). Still, I'll keep digging, there are a lot of those mentions in scholarly articles too. PS. I thought I found a good reference for "Molly has been described as literary character representative of the third-wave feminism; "independent and very ruthless... rough and tough and in command of the male characters.", blurring the line between feminine and masculinity characteristics." but the publisher for Sanyat Sattar; Abu Saleh Md. Rafi (2015-11-28). "The Cyborg Entity in Gibson's Neuromancer: An Idealistic "Cyborg Manifesto?"". Journal of Literature and Art Studies. 5 (11). doi:10.17265/2159-5836/2015.11.002. is blacklisted as a predatory publisher. Sigh. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:55, 26 November 2019 (UTC)