Talk:Money Can't Buy You Class

Scholarly articles

@Carbrera: Apologies for the ping. Just wanted to let you know that there has (surprisingly) been scholarly attention given to this song (i.e. in these sources: Money Can't Buy Them Class Security: The Stories of the Real Housewives of Bravo TV, The “Rich Bitch”: Class and gender on the Real Housewives of New York City, Class and productive avoidance in The Real Housewives reunions, The Routledge Companion to Media and Class). I am not sure if they would be helpful to the article or not, but I just wanted to let you know that they exist. Best of luck with the GAN! Aoba47 (talk) 05:50, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you very much Aoba47. I'll take a look at them, I really appreciate it. Carbrera (talk) 15:29, 28 February 2021 (UTC).

Aoba47 – just out of curiousity, how did you access these sources? My ProQuest account is temporarily unavailable to me since I am in between undergraduate and graduate school, and my account was university-affiliated. Carbrera (talk) 17:53, 10 March 2021 (UTC).

• I actually do not have access to the full sources. I found them through a Google Scholar so I cannot be absolutely certain if they would be helpful for this article. I used to have access to these journals through my undergraduate and graduate schools, but I had lost both privileges since graduation. I am a lifetime alumni member for my undergraduate school, but I can only access the journals while on the campus (and that is not really possible given the current state of the pandemic and the fact that I live about an hour and a half away). I would recommend asking for the sources at the Resource Request. I hope this clears that up. Aoba47 (talk) 18:37, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Money Can't Buy You Class/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 20:42, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Reviewing this for the GAN backlog; the first time I reviewed one of your articles during this period though! --K. Peake 20:42, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

• WP:OVERLINK of Luann de Lesseps under songwriter(s)
• Target single to Single (music) on the first mention instead
• The sentence about the songwriting should be the second of the lead instead
• "before a wider one to digital retailers occurred" → "before the label issued a wider one to digital retailers"
• "the song's sole producer." → "its sole producer."
• Why no mention of the disco influences?
• Wouldn't "generally negative" be more appropriate language to describe the reception?
• Mention the synopsis of the video
• Remove "English television personality" introduction, as that being in the body is enough
• ""Money Can't Buy You Class" was also featured in her" → "Another remix was featured in her"
• "and performed on several occasions on" → "and the original was performed on several occasions for"

Background and release

• Target second season to The Real Housewives of New York City (season 2)
• The non-fiction and second season parts are not sourced in the Amazon introduction
• "and create a song out of it." → "to create "Money Can't Buy You Class" out of it." since the source shows her mentioning the song itself

• I'd prefer the wording "and create a song, ultimately recording 'Money Can't Buy You Class'" as I feel the other way suggests the final title was pre-established, which the source does not state. Carbrera (talk) 22:42, 13 March 2021 (UTC).

• "as an exclusive on" → "as a streaming exclusive via" to avoid overusing "on", with the target
• "on May 25 the next month, when it was released" → "on May 25, being released" since everyone knows May comes directly after April
• Add a comma before through
• [8] is useless, as [7] backs up the release in various countries including the US
• "charity event hosted by" → "charity event, hosted by"
• Are you sure "success" is the correct term or maybe something like "exposure" would work better, as the song was not really successful?
• "he receives a" → "he was receiving a"
• "created the remix for de Lesseps," → "worked on the remix with de Lesseps," per the source
• The most perfect terrible song part is not sourced; you could add the "it just came out perfect, working on this collab with the one and only Countess was awesome" part though
• "It was released to digital retailers" → "The remix was released to digital retailers in various countries"

Composition and lyrics

• Img looks good!
• ""Money Can't Buy You Class" is a" → "Musically, "Money Can't Buy You Class" is a"
• Maybe reword the styles to mentioning that she sings through Auto-Tune like the EW ref says?
• chord progressions → chord progression

Reception

• "comparing them to tobacco users" → "comparing them to smokers"
• "she added: "when" → "she added that "when"
• "computer-generated dream."" → "computer-generated dream"." per MOS:QUOTE
• "called the song fun and indulgent," → "called the song indulgent," since the review itself does not call the song fun

Promotion

• Wikilink music video on the img text
• "of the song's lyrics," → "of the song's lyrical content," because otherwise it sounds like you are talking about the entirety of it
• It seems as if only advice is sourced, not tips
• "for champagne flutes."" → "for champagne flutes"." per MOS:QUOTE
• ""visually auto-tuned,"" → ""visually auto-tuned","
• "dozen male models"." → "dozen male models."" since this is a full sentence quoted
• Remove the opening sentence of the following para, as that is the entire purpose of this para
• "as "most captivating"" → "as the "most captivating""

Track listings and formats

• Remove streaming, as Apple Music from 2010 does not indicate this

Credits and personnel

• I don't think this section is needed when there's only two personnel and you have sourced them in prose anyway

Release history

• Target Ultra to Ultra Music
• Remove streaming from formats for releases two and four per my earlier comment

References

• Copyvio score looks fairly good at 27.5!
• Make sure all of these are archived by using the tool
• Wikilink The Real Housewives of New York City and target Season 3 to The Real Housewives of New York City (season 3) on ref 5
• Wikilink Apple Music on ref 7's first citation
• Remove wikilink on The Real Housewives of New York City for ref 10
• Target Season 4 to The Real Housewives of New York City (season 4) on ref 11
• Wikilink Los Angeles Times on ref 22
• Remove wikilink on Los Angeles Times for ref 35

External links

• Good

Final comments and verdict

•  On hold until all of the issues are fixed, but this article is reasonably well-written. --K. Peake 11:38, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Kyle Peake – thank you for the review, as always. I believe I have addressed all of your concerns. Please let me know if there is anything else I can do. Thanks again, Carbrera (talk) 22:43, 13 March 2021 (UTC).

Carbrera Mostly looks good, but why is the James Kennedy remix listed as released in 2018 when none of the Apple Music sources lead to the remix or back up the date? --K. Peake 07:05, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Kyle Peake - My mistake, I believe it is all fixed now. Carbrera (talk) 15:23, 14 March 2021 (UTC).

Carbrera ✓ Pass now; I forgot to tell you to pipe streaming to Streaming media but fixed this myself! --K. Peake 15:29, 14 March 2021 (UTC)