Talk:Monitorial System

Learning by teaching

Is the Bell-Lancaster method really related to the Learning-by-teaching? That seems a bit of a mismatch, since the Bell-Lancaster system was a means of maintaining order by effective use of resources (i.e. the more-able students teaching the less) than as a pedagogical tool for the monitors themselves. 69.95.208.155 16:05, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

The reference was indeed incorrect. --Fasten 11:16, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Untitled

The Madras System and Lancasterian System were recognised as a bootstrapping technique that allowed teaching and learning by students. It had become quite widespread by the 1830's. DDB 07:45, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

existing schools

Can anyone point to schools that are using this system today?--DennisDaniels (talk) 01:06, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

While I cannot point to schools using this today, I can say that the Catholic Education system evolved from it. Were I to look for Monitorial system schools I would look at third world nations with a high catholic ethos (eg South America, Non Brit Africa, Vietnam etc) alternatively I would look at variations of the theme in hypermodern schools of NYC, Beverly Hills, Paris, etc. Resourcing is such that the system is antiquated, teachers don't cost that much these days. DDB (talk) 13:02, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes. As the system evolved out of India (Madras and the Arabic Madrasas (word for school) I have looked around a bit. But, the developing world doesn't generally document very well. I'm not sure if I agree about teachers being cheap. Unionized teachers can make a decent salary.--DennisDaniels (talk) 21:00, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Monitorial schools system merger

There seems to be a good argument, I can't think of a difference between them demarcating them. DDB (talk) 10:32, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

POVs- misuse of technical terms and mainly unreferenced

If anyone is monitoring this, please stop me. If anyone has access to the history section of a university, Dept of Education please take the lead. --ClemRutter (talk) 22:03, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

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Why is this system less popular now?

I am missing the context as to why this system of learning is not as widely used, as it once was. Can someone more closely related to this topic please address this in the article? Jooojay (talk) 20:44, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

Reverted edit

I have reverted the addition of "This system was inspired from their tenures in the Madras presidency where they saw the native teaching methods prevent them." to the opening paragraph. Firstly, while Bell was in Madras, Lancaster never was. Secondly, the last part of the edit doesn't make sense to me. If anyone rewords and reinserts it, please put it after the reference to the Britannica as this is not mentioned there. In Andrew Bell it says "He claimed to see some Malabar children teaching others the alphabet by drawing in sand and decided to develop a similar method, putting bright children in charge of those who were less bright.". What the children were 'claimed' to be doing is hardly an educational system as described, as older or more knowledgeable children have always done similar to this. Sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse... Sarandone2 (talk) 16:22, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Further research: "WilliamOughterLoniePaper" (PDF). www.madrascollegearchive.org.uk/. Retrieved 12 March 2021. This paper gives a description of the Madras College but doesn't mention the anecdote- references are everything on WP. (Comment by ClemRutter)