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User:Allthewhile wrote in the audit trail:

sorry , but it wasn't a run on sentence. you created a sentence fragment in the process.

You're correct -- I read an "are" in the first portion of that sentence that simply wasn't there. Thanks for correcting that!

Atlant 14:57, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)

thanks for being congenial

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i'm glad we're willing to work together. we should try to make this stub a little better. remember, anything we pull from the catholic encyclopedia is public domain!!!

Appropriate image?

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The image shows some men moving under a covering. Is that really a monstrance? The lead says that a monstrance is a vessel used to carry the host. Robert K S 21:48, 22 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

Ah, I see the central figuring is carrying a monstrance in front of his face. It is not clear from the caption. We could probably use a better picture, anyway. Robert K S 22:35, 22 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

can't a monstrance be used for other things?

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Like relics? If this is true (and I think it is) should we modify its definition? Allthewhile 23:20, 8 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

No. Relics are displayed in a Reliquary. It is true that some free-standing reliquaries look very similar to a monstrance, but they will generally have a locket (or multiple-locket) head, rather than a lunette (the piece of the monstrance wherein the host is placed). Monstrances have basically only three uses, all closely related: exposition, benediction, and processions of the blessed sacrament. Timothy Titus Talk To TT 10:18, 2 June 2011 (UTC)Reply
And while some reliquiaries look like monstrances (they do indeed), they are much smaller.--77.4.70.255 (talk) 17:49, 30 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

Real presence

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I'm concerned about the fourth sentence under "liturgical context", which says: "This is what is meant by Real Presence; the presence of Jesus in the Eucharist." Whilst this sentence is entirely correct within itself, it also clearly refers back to the preceding three sentences concerning transubstantiation. This is misleading, since there are many traditions which accept the Doctrine of the Real Presence, but reject the concept of transubstantiation. Indeed, anyone clicking the "Real presence" wikilink will find the target article at odds with what is stated here. I haven't waded in and changed anything, but I would suggest that this can be easily tidied up with a minor alteration, perhaps along the lines of: "This is what is meant by Real Presence within the Roman Catholic tradition; the presence of Jesus in the Eucharist. (Other Christians accept the Doctrine of the Real Presence, whilst rejecting transubstantiation as a philosophical concept.)" Timothy Titus Talk To TT 19:12, 30 May 2011 (UTC)Reply

No responses, so I will go ahead and make the change. Timothy Titus Talk To TT 10:20, 2 June 2011 (UTC)Reply